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Victim: Gang-Rape Cover-Up by U.S., Halliburton/KBR
ABC ^ | Dec. 10, 2007 | BRIAN ROSS, MADDY SAUER & JUSTIN ROOD

Posted on 12/10/2007 12:51:08 PM PST by ovrtaxt

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To: bahblahbah
I read the account and it looks pretty damning and it is a republican congressman who is calling for action here.

Exactly. A Republican Congressman would not get involved in a case like this unless it had some merit. Period. Just because this incident is connected to an Iraq contractor doesn't mean it's part of the "vast left-wing conspiracy".

There are disgusting scumbags in every walk of life. Heck, one even became POTUS - Bill Clinton.
221 posted on 12/11/2007 8:23:59 AM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Freeper Solid Wood said the story was "BS."
Freeper AU72 asked if "Blackwater held her down."
Freeper Perdogg said "Cheney and Rove filmed it."
Freeper Keith said "the film would be done by Michael Moore."
Freeper Bryan24 (to whom I first responded) Raised essentially the same question I did and reached a similar conclusion by inference. I was a little bit more specific.
Freeper subterfuge questioned the rape at post 27 and at post #32 (right before mine) said what I said in essence when he observed an attractive 20 year old woman should NOT be in Baghdad.

Are all these folks "dirtbags," too? I suspect the line I had about "getting too many tips and thus objecting to a small tip" is what touched nerves. I'm a writer and I thought it was a "cute turn of the phrase." Obviously not, given the responses. In retrospect it was probably a bit much and I'm sure that her parents would be aghast as would I were it my daughter being discussed.

I'd have to say that on reflection I shot from the lip and indeed should wait for more details to be revealed on the case. Therefore I stand corrected.

However I continue to question the wisdom of an attractive young woman being allowed to place herself in that most dangerous corner of the world. Again, I have to wonder what skills (real professional skills) a 20 year old has to offer and what experience she brings to the table that would lead a corporation to believe she wouldn't be anything more than a lawsuit in waiting for her innate ability to remain safe under such circumstances? Unless the company can verify and document a whole range of classes taught by experts (Blackwater comes to mind) on how to avoid being victimized in a combat zone, I'd say that KBR should face some legal consequences.

222 posted on 12/11/2007 8:51:12 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: CutePuppy; ExSoldier

They have already stated on Jamie’s website that a screenplay is in the works.

I’ll add another observation. She was sent to Iraq to work, and the first and only activities she notes are that she “socialized.” She was very quick to get into the mix and “meet people.” For most on a new job, the focus is on the job itself.


223 posted on 12/11/2007 9:25:16 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Chris Wallace, Doonesbury and Tim Russert, the new gurus of the “true conservative.”)
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To: subterfuge

I am a lady, and I have NEVER wanted to visit ANYWHERE in the Middle East except for Israel.


224 posted on 12/11/2007 9:29:59 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Chris Wallace, Doonesbury and Tim Russert, the new gurus of the “true conservative.”)
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To: khnyny

Rep. Ted Poe is the congressman for the Texas district where Jamie’s family lives. He was responding to their request for assistance, which congressmen normally do. He is simply doing his job. As far as I can see from the material presented here, he has not concluded that she was raped. He’s a judge after all, and the “evidence” is missing.


225 posted on 12/11/2007 9:34:46 AM PST by La Enchiladita (Chris Wallace, Doonesbury and Tim Russert, the new gurus of the “true conservative.”)
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To: ovrtaxt

If this turns out to be true, and I was her father, I’d go find an A-10 pilot in need of some practice....


226 posted on 12/11/2007 9:43:38 AM PST by Freeport
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To: Bryan24
What was a 20 year-old woman doing working IN IRAQ as a contractor?

Why shouldn't she have?

227 posted on 12/11/2007 10:16:30 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: subterfuge
Ha, ha. Funny. But come on ladyjane. It just isn't smart. Life is precious. It's no different than deciding to become a high-wire trapiez artist and work without a net---it just isn't shmart.

Do tell.

228 posted on 12/11/2007 10:19:36 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I think shes telling the truth. A young attractive woman with no real protection from her employer or otherwise was more then likely attacked. It happens. I want to know if at least the one she can identify is still working or was he fired?


229 posted on 12/11/2007 10:36:04 AM PST by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: wideawake; ConfusedAndLovingIt; ovrtaxt
Being a woman working as a contractor in Iraq.

The short version: This story could be true. I worked for KBR in my early days here. I left for a variety of reasons and one of them was the overwhelming "good ol' boy network" influence.

I am working for a much more professional company now, but with KBR, I didn't feel that I would get a fair shake if something had happened to me. I knew some dark secrets when I was there that disgusted me to no end.

That's not to say that all of KBR is bad. But they could do a heck of a lot better job in the leadership department.

If this story is true, I sincerely hope that the perpetrators are brought to justice. I have contacted a couple of friends who worked for KBR at Camp Hope at the time of this incident. If I get any good information that I can post, I'll do so.

230 posted on 12/11/2007 10:38:58 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra

Thanks for your feedback. Another question: I understand at one point that shipping containers were commonly used as makeshift housing - kind of like a FEMA trailer. True?


231 posted on 12/11/2007 10:41:09 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: dschapin; JerseyHighlander
Jersey Highlander's "information" is cut-and-pasted from the website of a Soros front group.

Consider the source.

232 posted on 12/11/2007 10:44:49 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: bahblahbah

agree


233 posted on 12/11/2007 10:51:14 AM PST by DvdMom ( Drew Peterson Belongs In Jail Along With Nifong)
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To: Dengar01

I Agree With You 100 % :)


234 posted on 12/11/2007 10:55:51 AM PST by DvdMom ( Drew Peterson Belongs In Jail Along With Nifong)
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To: Deathmonger
These mercenaries

I didn't know that Markos Moulitsas Zuniga had an FR screenname.

235 posted on 12/11/2007 10:57:35 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
Another question: I understand at one point that shipping containers were commonly used as makeshift housing - kind of like a FEMA trailer. True?

Yes. In earlier days, shipping containers were fixed up to be used as living quarters or offices. A/C was installed.

It was not unusual at all.

You don't see that as much these days, but I imagine at some of the more remote camps, there might still be some of those.

236 posted on 12/11/2007 10:58:25 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Allegra

Thanks for the feedback, having you over there sure cuts through alot of the “crud”.


237 posted on 12/11/2007 10:59:15 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Deathmonger
These mercenaries...

Excuse me?

238 posted on 12/11/2007 11:00:32 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Thanks for the feedback, having you over there sure cuts through alot of the “crud”.

There sure is a lot of "crud" all over this thread. Some of these posters belong on DU as far as I'm concerned.

239 posted on 12/11/2007 11:02:18 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: org.whodat

No, if the doctor’s back her up, the tune will change to “she must have been asking for it”.


240 posted on 12/11/2007 11:06:27 AM PST by Wolfie
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