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Compassion Trap (Great Editorial On Mortgage Bail-Out! MUST READ!)
San Diego Union Tribune | 12/10/2007 | San Diego Union Tribune Editorial

Posted on 12/10/2007 10:46:06 AM PST by goldstategop

The fundamental problem is that people took out loans they could never afford. The answer, painful as it may be, is for these people to either find affordable loans or find housing they can afford – not to shift part of the bill for their rotten judgment to taxpayers and to holders of legal contracts.

We acknowledge the argument that a wave of foreclosures could roil Wall Street and spur a recession. But there is no reason to assume such a downturn would be long-lived. The fundamentals of the U.S. economy remain strong, and more than 19 out of every 20 mortgages are in good shape. Indeed, a counterargument holds that the sooner the subprime crisis crests, the better.

If this sounds hard-hearted, so be it. Yes, better government regulation would have lessened this crisis. But at some point, the individuals and institutions who actually created this mess must pay for their irrational and risky decisions – not the public at large.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
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An well presented argument against a tax payer bailout of the subprime loan market. It amounts to an assault on the sanctity of contracts and it prevents individuals and the free market from resolving their own mess. There's no reason to put taxpayers on the hook for a situation for which they are not at fault. That's not legal, prudent or just.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 12/10/2007 10:46:10 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
An well presented argument against a tax payer bailout of the subprime loan market.

What taxpayer bail out?

2 posted on 12/10/2007 10:47:59 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: goldstategop

Yes. After all, they didn’t have a home when they tried to buy the current one. Perhaps they just aren’t meant for home ownership. They damned sure aren’t meant for home ownership if they expect me to pay for it.


3 posted on 12/10/2007 10:48:39 AM PST by jammer
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To: Moonman62
What taxpayer bail out?

You think transferring them to FHA insured loans isn't bailing them out? It's not as bad as, say, Hillary would like because we won't make overt payments for them. But it is certainly going to cost taxpayers money.

4 posted on 12/10/2007 10:50:15 AM PST by jammer
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To: goldstategop

The lenders assumed the risk when they made the loans. They should pay the price.


5 posted on 12/10/2007 10:50:30 AM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: jammer
Remember, a lot of these people don't even live in the homes that are getting foreclosed on. They bought property on speculation because they watched a few too many episodes of Flip That House and drank the real-estate-koolaid. I don't have much sympathy for them or the mortgage lenders and brokers who gave them credit.
6 posted on 12/10/2007 10:52:11 AM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: goldstategop

The ones who are creditworthy should be able to refinance - as to the others, the reason they have such crappy rates is that they’re risky borrowers. No cause for bailout, IMO.


7 posted on 12/10/2007 10:53:06 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Moonman62
What taxpayer bail out?

The one that will occur in 5 years when this proposed freeze on rate changes ends.

If you think about it, you can see the beginnings of it. The Democrat party has already said that the current giveaway is not good enough. They clearly see the need to top what Bush has proposed. The easiest way, of course, is for the US government to bail out each and every foreclosure. Given how the Democrat party has successfully monopolized the votes of the recipients of taxpayers' largess, there is no reason to believe that it would not want to add to this constituency by offering free houses to these "victims."

8 posted on 12/10/2007 10:53:08 AM PST by pnh102
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To: goldstategop
I think I'm nmissing something. Is there supposed to be a functioning link to the SD Trib or is that site so far off limits at FreeRepublic.com that we must onlu refer to it, and not link to it? </hint of sarcasm>

Seriously, is there a link?

9 posted on 12/10/2007 10:54:01 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: jammer

The REAL problem is that mortgage lenders who created this mess with their low standards and deceitful practices has pulled us down this road of “good intentions”.

If we are to avoid creeping socialism - errant capitalists have to be punished, and they must never do that again, lest we be set up for more taxpayer money being stolen for “the greater good.”


10 posted on 12/10/2007 10:54:48 AM PST by bioqubit (bioqubit, conformity - such a common deformity)
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To: jammer
You think transferring them to FHA insured loans isn't bailing them out?

Who is going to get transferred to FHA insured loans? What will be the qualifications? What percentage of the loan market are you talking about?

11 posted on 12/10/2007 10:55:18 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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The Democrat party has already said that the current giveaway is not good enough.

What giveaway?

12 posted on 12/10/2007 10:57:55 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: lesser_satan; jammer; goldstategop; RockinRight; Hoodlum91

Hey! I watch Flip That House and I’m not buying real estate I can’t afford.

Oh. Wait. I thought this was really about the folks who bought ‘interest only’ loans...?


13 posted on 12/10/2007 11:03:08 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: lesser_satan

Regardless, THIS plan doesn’t work for investor properties.


14 posted on 12/10/2007 11:07:19 AM PST by RockinRight (Bill Clinton + Jimmuh Carter + Pat Robertson + Gomer Pyle = Mike Huckabee)
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To: RockinRight; lesser_satan

Why is that RR? I thought FHA allowed investor loans...?


15 posted on 12/10/2007 11:11:13 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: goldstategop

“... the individuals and institutions who actually created this mess must pay for their irrational and risky decisions – not the public at large.”

Hear, hear!!


16 posted on 12/10/2007 11:11:14 AM PST by SMARTY
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To: goldstategop

“... the individuals and institutions who actually created this mess must pay for their irrational and risky decisions – not the public at large.”

Hear, hear!!


17 posted on 12/10/2007 11:11:40 AM PST by SMARTY
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To: Froufrou

Nope. FHA is only owner-occupied properties or a non-occupant co-borrower where two people are on the loan but at least one lives in the house.

And this isn’t FHA. All it is is allowing the fixed-period of an ARM to be extended.


18 posted on 12/10/2007 11:12:46 AM PST by RockinRight (Bill Clinton + Jimmuh Carter + Pat Robertson + Gomer Pyle = Mike Huckabee)
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To: RockinRight

Ah, thanks.


19 posted on 12/10/2007 11:13:28 AM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: RockinRight; lesser_satan

I don’t get it. I thought the cap was 1% a year. Who is that gonna break?


20 posted on 12/10/2007 11:13:56 AM PST by Froufrou
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