Colorado police look for links in church killings

Reuters ^ | 12/10/2007 | Keith Coffman

[Rick.Donaldson]

Yeah, he asked that. He’s a buffoon. I’m gonna call fox this evening and tell them what I think of him

[Jeff Head]

The security guard at the church shows us, without a doubt, that conceal carry and the ability for the private citizens to be armed, STOPS these attacks. That it SAVES LIVES, and that it should be the policy of every church, school, mall, etc.

THIS is what the MSM should be focusing on if they had a single ounce, one cintilla of true jounalism left in their collective system. This is the news, along with he attack itself, that should be grabbing healines:

"ARMED HEROINE PREVENTS SLAUGHTER AT CHURCH BY SHOOTING THE ATTACKER DEAD"

Thank God that pastor there LISTENED to the inspiration he felt regarding protecting his flock, and then ACTED on it that morning by getting the additional security in place, which included, among other things as I understand it, getting his people to safe places within the church, each group protected by an armed security guard, and getting them out of the line of fire...as well as having this particular security guard near him who was able (and WILLING) to react to the attack by taking the fight directly to the perp and taking him down.

Without such actions and plan, there would have been a much, much more horrific body count I am afraid...which just punctuates the point of arming the people so they can stop such attacks as they develop.

[jan in Colorado]

I shudder to think what would have happened if there had not been armed members inside that church. The fact that they were informed about the earlier shooting and had increased their security, also contributed to saving lives.

[Jeff Head]

The security guard at the church shows us, without a doubt, that conceal carry and the ability for the private citizens to be armed, STOPS these attacks. That it SAVES LIVES, and that it should be the policy of every church, school, mall, etc.

THIS is what the MSM should be focusing on if they had a single ounce, one cintilla of true jounalism left in their collective system. This is the news, along with he attack itself, that should be grabbing healines:

"ARMED HEROINE PREVENTS SLAUGHTER AT CHURCH BY SHOOTING THE ATTACKER DEAD"

Thank God that pastor there LISTENED to the inspiration he felt regarding protecting his flock, and then ACTED on it that morning by getting the additional security in place, which included, among other things as I understand it, getting his people to safe places within the church, each group protected by an armed security guard, and getting them out of the line of fire...as well as having this particular security guard near him who was able (and WILLING) to react to the attack by taking the fight directly to the perp and taking him down.

Without such actions and plan, there would have been a much, much more horrific body count I am afraid...which just punctuates the point of arming the people so they can stop such attacks as they develop.

[spunkets]

"Ive heard rumors that the shooters were muslim-converts. They were white, yet they converted to islam because of their hate for christianity."

You signed up today to spread rumors, so you ought to be zotted.

[Rick.Donaldson]

Deja vous? Or did you already say that once? /grin

[Jeff Head]

Same response to two different posters...when posting, going through my “pings” I thought they were seperate threads. Obviously, I should have CC’d both on the same response.

[SlowBoat407]

Ive heard rumors that the shooters were muslim-converts.

Unnamed sources?

[Charles Martel]

You know, I want to punch Sheppard Smith right in the face, he is an idiot. He just asked a reporter here in MY town, “Why would a church need an armed security guard? Isn’t that beyond the norm?”

Shep frequently reminds me of an old episode of Married, With Children, wherein Kelly Bundy lands a high-paying job as the local weather-babe. It lasts a few days, then her employer discovers that she's not quite smart enough to read the TelePrompter.

[Rick.Donaldson]

Don’t be too concerned about that Dave. Have you ever been at the wrong end of a gun barrel before with someone shooting it? I have, and you tend to pee your pants. Survival instinct is generally stronger than you think it is though, but, at the same time, there are those who will leap in front of a bullet to save others without any regard to themselves.

In my old hometown (Detroit) a few days ago, a 7 year old girl jumped in front of a crazed man and took six bullets to save her mom.

Sometimes, the person who is thrust into a situation will do things that are completely superhuman, sometimes they crumble. You can’t blame people too much for being paralyzed with fear when a man with a rifle starts shooting.

[MtnClimber]

I have seen no sourced information about Muslim converts here. Yesterday there were reports that another person was in custody, but no word on that today. The Utah mall shooting that was stopped by an armed off-duty police officer seemed to be an Islamic terrorist event, but it went largely unreported in the MSM. Also not much reporting about possible terrorist motives in the DC Sniper case.

A Colorado Springs PD press conference is scheduled for 3:00 pm today. I will try to post any new information that comes out there.

[potlatch]

Bump your post devolve.

[MtnClimber]

On the radio, Matthew Murray identified as the shooter in both locations. His neighbors described him as a loner.

[the808bass]

Ive heard rumors that the shooters were muslim-converts.

Welcome to Free Republic.

I heard they were Marshmallow chicks.

[the808bass]

The zot is fast.

[devolve]

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Lots to come yet

I doubt that all will (ever) be revealed

No athesists or non-Christans seem to have been targeted

FNC’s Shep Smith is a moron asking why security was needed in a church

Why did Willie Sutton rob banks instead picking of a diner full of cops who just got paid Shep?

Could it be that is where he knew his unarmed victims would be?

[MtnClimber]

I have Concealed Weapon Permit #008 in my county. I had a Florida permit for years. I had a home invader break down my front door one night when I lived in FL. When I puled out my gun he stopped his charge toward me and ran. That is how most crimes are prevented by gun owners...without firing a shot. Unfortunately there are occasions like this that can’t be stopped by any other means.