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To: fallingwater
"They're locked into the Nicene Creed . . . We're locked into the restoration and the experiences of Joseph Smith," said Elder M. Russell Ballard, a senior leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Really? From the book of Mormon:

2 nephi 31:21 "...and now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen"

Alma 11:44 "...arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one"eternal God..."

The quotations are consistent with the doctrine of Nicene Creed. later Joseph Smith would teach polytheism ( many gods) at the funeral one of the elders, in doing so he effectively changes the doctrine of God that they taught and rejects that of the book of Mormon. They believe not simply in evolving revelation through the apostle in Utah but effectively an evolving truth of God. Elder Ballards reply is a demonstration that the LDS does not in fact believe the book of Mormon.

22 posted on 12/10/2007 12:52:49 AM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold")
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To: verklaring

The following quotes are from a website owned by “The Institute for Religious Research.” I can’t speak for its accuracy, but it appears to support your perspective.

I’m trying to get a handle on LDS doctrine. Can anyone speak to the accuracy of the following from that website?

“The Book of Mormon teaches, for example, that there is:

-only one God
-who is a Spirit, and
-is “unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity” (Alma 11:26-31; II Nephi 31:21; Mormon 9:9-11, 19; Moroni 7:22; 8:18).

Present-day Mormon doctrine, by contrast, teaches that:

-three separate gods are in charge of our planet
-two of these have bodies, were once men, and
-earned the right to become gods through faithful obedience to the Mormon gospel.”

At any rate, there is extraordinary information on that website:

http://www.irr.org/mit/Book-of-Mormon-Today.html

One thing about this controversy generated by Governor Romney’s candidacy . . . the American people are learning far more about Mormon doctrine and practices than ever before. The question is: Will this be good, bad or inconsequential for the LDS Church to have all this out there being discussed and debated outside the controlled missionary efforts of the church?

I have had several close LDS friends over the years. One of them was one of my closest friends. A man of exceptional character. But we never discussed Mormon doctrine, even though he held several leadership positions in his church.


26 posted on 12/10/2007 6:55:30 AM PST by RetiredArmyMajor
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