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To: enough_idiocy
There seems to be one line of thinking that if we punish the GOP by only supporting a “true” conservative and rejecting anything less, they’ll shape up. The other is, why suffer for years (possibly decades) in hopes of that theory?

We can survive and have survived forty years of suffering. We won't survive four years of President Rudy. He's just too weak in character. Our enemies would use his many weaknesses to manipulate him.

87 posted on 12/10/2007 10:38:31 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: tear gas

“We can survive and have survived forty years of suffering” right, but look where we are - SS about to go broke, Medicare/caid about to gobble up the tax base, illegal immigration has turned into an invasion, senators more concerned with the due process rights of admitted terrorists than marines serving in Iraq, calls for devasting environmental regulations that will cripple the economy....

Your point about Rudy is well taken - “He’s just too weak in character. Our enemies would use his many weaknesses to manipulate him.” This is an argument against him I can respect. Simply saying he’s not conservative enough, to me, isn’t sufficient given the alternatives, but what you point out here is different.

Then again, doesn’t it come down to this - a choice between the lesser of two evils or sitting it out and letting others select the lesser of two evils? I’m really struggling with this. Pre-9/11 I sat elections out b/c I was not supportive of the choices I was given by the RNC/DNC insiders. Then post-9/11 I began to think it’s far too important to sit out and allow the likes of someone like John Kerry to be put in office, even if Bush was imperfect in my eyes. I face the same issue again - am I to try and “survive” Hillary for 4-8yrs? Hillary can and will do enormous damage to this country. Look what’s been done over the last few decades.

I don’t think there’s a right or easy answer to this problem.


91 posted on 12/10/2007 10:47:35 AM PST by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: tear gas

I don’t want Rudy in. He’s not my choice. I am supporting Fred Thompson.

But I do have to ask. You say we cannot survive four years of Rudy. Do you think we can survive four years of Hillary Clinton? Barack Obama? John Edwards? What if Algore gets into the race?

I hope Fred can win the primaries. I’m hopeful about the South (Carolina and then the rest of Dixie) giving him the edge, but now Huckabee (spit) has overtaken all.

So the only choice I can see is between whomever wins the Republican primaries and then Clinton/Obama?Edwards/Gore(?). I don’t even want to make a guess about Congress, but it too needs to be WON back. And many more Republican seats are up than democrat in the Senate. 2008 is going to be one tough year for conservatives.

Guiliani and Huckabee would destroy the party, but the Dems will destroy the country. There is no way for conservatives to sit out or vote third party without giving the election to the democrats. Not one person here will dispute THAT. Can anyone give me a credible scenario where conservatives sit the election out but the dems still loose?

So I ask again, can this country, at this time, with the War on Islamifacism, Amnesty, Free Trade over Jobs, and Constitutional Judges in the SCOTUS—all up for grabs and unfinished, survive four years of a dem Congress and President?


105 posted on 12/10/2007 2:39:39 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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