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Atheists' sign sparks controversy ("Imagine No Religion" - Shows WTC)
WTNH.com ^ | December 8, 2007 | Carolee Salerno

Posted on 12/09/2007 5:35:32 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough

Vernon (WTNH) _ A sign posted by Atheists in the Rockville's Central Park has people talking, prompting calls to the town hall and the local clergy.

The Connecticut Valley Atheists posted the three-sided sign, which some call a billboard, and it was the only sign in the town center marking the Holiday season. Two sides of the display feature the Twin Towers, framed by the words "Imagine No Religion."

This Christmas, Martha Chennelle and Amy Houser say Vernon could use a few prayers, considering the sign standing in front of town hall.

"We believe that Christ is the reason for Christmas," said Chennelle.

"I feel like this is an attack on my beliefs as a religious person," said Houser.

The sign, put up by the Connecticut Valley Atheist Group, which was supposed to mark the winter solstice, but the "Imagine No Religion" part of it, taken from John Lennon's song, "Imagine," has a lot of people upset.

Houser says the sign mocks her religion during a holy time of the year. "Imagine no religion is an attack against me, as any person of faith should take it as an attack against them," Houser said.

The town issued permits to the Atheist group to put the sign in the park. They also issued permits to a group of churches that plans to put a nativity scene and to a local synagogue to put up a menorah.

Dennis Himes, a Vernon resident, and member of CT Valley Atheists, says he was tired of seeing Christian displays.

"There are plenty of places to put up nativity scenes in Vernon. The original question that started this controversy was not whether a nativity scene would be put up in Vernon," said Dennis Himes of Vernon. "The question was whether the nativity scene would be put in front of a church or in front of town hall, on government property.

Himes also says that the picture of the Twin Towers is meant to show that without religion, 9-11 wouldn't have happened. A suggestion that has upset Muslims, as well.

"This is an attack," said Houser.

Chennelle and Houser have been fighting back with prayer.

"We ultimately believe that Christians have been persecuted throughout history," said Houser, "so this is nothing new."

According to the Hartford Courant town officials issued the Atheists a permit to put up the sign to commemorate the Winter Solstice. Permits were also issued to local churches and a synagogue to put up their own displays.

Yesterday the town of Rockville put up a large Christmas Tree, just 10 feet from the display.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: atheists; christianity; cranksveto; enjoythevoid; evangelicalatheists; islam
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To: LurkedLongEnough

The sign’s OK, it just doesn’t go far enough.

If there’s no religion:

1. There’s no atheism, for atheism is a religion, with it’s own miracles: life from lifeless matter, morality from non-moral matter.

2. No God

3. No Morality

4. No purpose

5. No hope


21 posted on 12/09/2007 7:08:28 AM PST by FNU LNU (Nothing runs like a Deere, nothing smells like a john)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Atheists' sign sparks controversy ("Imagine No Religion" - Shows WTC)

Needs an advert covering the glorious Pol Pot era.

Who was just a pipsqueak killa' when it comes to those enlightened
atheist leaders like Mao and Stalin.

(yeah, some folks will blame Pol Pot's bad behaviour on Buddhist influences.)
22 posted on 12/09/2007 7:13:20 AM PST by VOA
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Dennis Himes, a Vernon resident, and member of CT Valley Atheists,
says he was tired of seeing Christian displays.
...SNIP...
Yesterday the town of Rockville put up a large Christmas Tree,
just 10 feet from the display.

REJOICE Dennis!
Thousands of American cities are apparently putting up Atheist
Holiday Trees in the public square.
(/sarc)

Atheists to erect holiday display
daily local news (chester county, pa.) ^ | 11/28/2007 | staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1931994/posts


23 posted on 12/09/2007 7:22:24 AM PST by VOA
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Religious pluralism means everyone gets space in the public square.


24 posted on 12/09/2007 7:25:04 AM PST by Gerfang (Beware the man who would deny you access to information, in his heart he dreams himself your master)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

They are full of it. This Winter Solstice nonsense is a religion!
Their sign takes something that was done by ONE specific pseudo-religion, the cult of death, and goes on to condemn ALL religions.


25 posted on 12/09/2007 7:31:40 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"Imagine No Religion."
They tried this in the Soviet Union - we know how that turned out.
However, what this sign actually does is condemn the "religion of peace."
26 posted on 12/09/2007 7:33:05 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Oh, please.
Nothing in the sign picks on Christians.

I agree. If anything it picks on Muslims. Christians didn't blow up the towers.

27 posted on 12/09/2007 7:34:00 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: jackofhearts
Always entertaining to note when a person's personal philosophy against something depends completely on the existence of that something.

28 posted on 12/09/2007 7:35:36 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

No, thanks. I’d prefer to imagine there was no atheism. In so many ways, it’d be a better world.


29 posted on 12/09/2007 7:42:36 AM PST by RichInOC (I believe that God exists, that He intervenes in His creation, and that He's a bit of a comedian.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Check out the perceptive commentary written a few years ago by Joel Engel in the Weekly Standard: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/457nnwrz.asp

Imagining “Imagine”
On the anniversary of John Lennon’s death, it’s worth taking a look at the gibberish in his beloved anthem.

30 posted on 12/09/2007 7:43:47 AM PST by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Atheism is the highest form of human arrogance.


31 posted on 12/09/2007 8:30:35 AM PST by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: raccoonradio
Just as love is not a quantifiable commodity, neither is faith. Atheists have no problem believing in love, though it too cannot be explained or measured.

What a sad, miserable way to lead one’s life: without faith. My direction is led by the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

The funny thing is at this time of the year when we as a people find it in our hearts to believe in the Holiday, we forget the one everlasting gift given to all of us by the Father and the Son.

Spread the word, Christ is Love, Faith is Love.

Love, is FAITH.

Merry Christmas.

32 posted on 12/09/2007 11:24:38 AM PST by four more in O 4 (Support our troops by supporting their mission.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

How about-—’Imagine no ‘religion’ that worships death.’
“Imagine no Islam”
“ Imagine no Atheists”


33 posted on 12/09/2007 11:29:56 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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