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To: SkyPilot

Hey SkyPilot? Are you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?

I just can’t say it.

What is WRONG with you?

Quoting the Journal of Discourses simply makes you look foolish.

Stick to the SCRIPTURES! That’s the only official Mormon doctrine I’ll accept.

Geez, Journal of Discourses ... WWJD?


523 posted on 12/08/2007 10:53:07 AM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Edward Watson
Okay, I get that the Journal of Discourses is not official LDS doctrine.

Do you dispute what Brigham Young said in the quoted text? Do you dispute that he said it?

I hope these aren't "trick questions."

526 posted on 12/08/2007 11:02:31 AM PST by Gurn (Remember Mountain Meadows.)
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To: Edward Watson; SkyPilot
Quoting the Journal of Discourses simply makes you look foolish.

Stick to the SCRIPTURES! That’s the only official Mormon doctrine I’ll accept.

"Official"?

527 posted on 12/08/2007 11:05:23 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney, fooled TWICE by a Columbian gardener...what kind of discernment for POTUS is this?)
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To: Edward Watson

What would WMR do...?


528 posted on 12/08/2007 11:09:09 AM PST by DangerDanger ("Libertarianism is the Heart and Soul of Conservatism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Edward Watson
Stick to the SCRIPTURES! That’s the only official Mormon doctrine I’ll accept.

Some people have stated, without any foundation whatsoever, that the talks reported in the “Journals” were inaccurately recorded and reported.

But all the evidence that is available goes to show that those chosen to make a record of the talks, did so in an extremely accurate manner, and had the complete confidence of the leaders of the Church in giving a faithful and reliable record of that which was said.

In fact, Brigham Young once stated:

“I know just as well what to teach this people and just what to say to them and what to do in order to bring them into the celestial kingdom, as I know the road to my office. It is just as plain and easy. The Lord is in our midst. He teaches the people continually. I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call Scripture. Let me have the privilege of correcting a sermon, and it is as good Scripture as they deserve.” (J.D. 13:95)

he also said this:

“I say now, when they are copied and approved by me they are as good scripture as is couched in this Bible, and if you want to read revelation read the sayings of him who knows the mind of God,…”

Obviously, Brigham Young approved and supported the Journal of Discourses and anybody who reads them with the Spirit of God as their guide “will know for themselves, and not for another,” that the talks contained therein are truly the word of God to all who have “ears to hear.”

In fact, in the preface to the index, produced and compiled at Brigham Young University in 1959, the statement was made:

“…In most cases it appears that the speakers depended almost entirely upon inspiration from the Holy Ghost, and the subjects discussed were intended for the greatest benefit of the Saints.” (Paragraph 2, Preface. Journal of Discourses Index.)

From above...it would appear that B. Young most surely disagrees with you...

I think Mr. Young was saying his sermons are most surely Holy Ghost inspired....Scripture.

Do you disagree with that?

536 posted on 12/08/2007 11:23:39 AM PST by Osage Orange (Deer...It's What's For Dinner)
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To: Edward Watson; greyfoxx39
What is WRONG with you?

I am a Christian - not a Mormon.

Quoting the Journal of Discourses simply makes you look foolish.

Oh, really?

Perhaps, it makes the Mormon cult look foolish - and that is what you know is vulnerable here.

Shall we discuss the Golden Plates in "Reformed Egyptian", or the magic hat next?

Even more damning, why don't you address a Mormon founder who is literally worshiped quoted as saying Joseph Smith is (or part of) the way to salvation as opposed to Jesus Christ alone - God's only son?

Do you wish to answer that sir/madam?

I am sorry?

I can't hear you?

No - you won't - will you. You cannot.

Your 'church' is founded on a man who had a Messianic complex and he has led you all astray.

Christ is standing at the door - waiting for you to knock. He saved me - and I was the worst of sinners.

590 posted on 12/08/2007 3:21:22 PM PST by SkyPilot
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