Baloney.
You said: Edward, you ask, yet no doubt you know that mormonism
identifies Jesus as a different Jesus than Christianity
does.
Oh really? Well, the Mormon Jesus was born of the virgin Mary 2000 in Bethlehem. He died on the cross for the sins of mankind and rose from the dead three days later. Who’s your Jesus?
You said: When mormonism says “God the Father”, they mean
a someone who is very different than the God Christians
mean. You are no doubt very aware of this.
Let’s see.
You said: The God the Father Christians worship was never a man. Doesn’t have a physical body.
Well, since the Bible does NOT say what or who God was PRIOR TO creating the universe AND neither does it provide an exposition on his nature and physicality; I’d say any difference in perceptions of God will always be “unbiblical” - meaning they cannot be supported either way by the Bible which means it’s stupid to use such differences to exclude the other from being “Christians.”
THUS, I think you guys are nuts to believe in a three hypostasis in one ousia nonmaterial, formless, ontologically omnipresent deity; but such belief does not preclude me from accepting you as “Christians” and belonging to the overall Christian family. Are you similarly charitable?
You said: The mormonism God the Father used
to be a human who has now risen to being God.
Stick to your own religion - don’t try to tell me what I believe. Your description of the Mormon “God” is incorrect. In LDS theology, God was ALWAYS God by nature PRIOR TO experiencing mortality.
You said: The mormonism Jesus is a created spirit being who came to earth to get a body and then became god. The Christian Jesus Christ was never created and was always God, second member of the TriUnity of the Godhead.
Wrong again and just stick to explaining your own religion, ok? The LDS Christ was always God by nature (just like the LDS Father) PRIOR TO experiencing mortality. He was God before becoming human 2000 years ago. Also, he was not a “created spirit being” he is a “spirit offspring” of the Father. There’s a HUGE difference between the two descriptions.
Spirit Offspring = Created
If you cannot own what mormonism professes, I cannot
have a discussion with you about the difference between
that teaching and Christianity.
Christian Jesus Christ = Never Created. Not an offspring.
From the post of yours I am responding to, you do not know
what basic theological words mean, or how they are derived
from Scripture.
If God is eternal, unchanging, immutable, then He has never
been different than He is and will never be different than
he was. Mormonism teaches He was different.
Anyone else like to share some basic mormonism quotes with
Edward, to help him understand mormon heresy? You guys seem
to have mormonism quotes at your fingertips and obviously,
Edward is unfamiliar with the writings of his mormonism
leaders in these matters. Thanks.
Edward, I’ll wait until they share some quotes that show
what your church actually teaches, and then I’d be glad to
discuss how that differs from the Bible.
best,
ampu
As to you, Ed, I would enjoy having a long discussion on cosmologies over a delightful lunch someday/some where-when. If you're not too many hundreds of miles away, perhaps I'll make the drive one week and we can hash these things out ... so to speak. Keep your sense of humor, man. The whole universe isn't really like a Chessboard, despite the apparent Aristotelian logic in the portion we sense now.