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To: sageb1

Ah yes..., that was good...


“The problem is that the much-hyped speech did nothing to achieve his goal of convincing doubting Evangelicals and Catholics that his Mormon beliefs will not hinder him from being a good president. Instead, for the most part, he pretended he wasn’t Mormon, or that being Mormon was so strange it is in his interest to keep it secret. In this speech about Mormonism, he uttered the word “Mormon” just once, while saying “Jews” and “Muslims” two times each and “Catholic” three times. Still more abrasive to Christian sensibilities was the attempt to pass off Mormon doctrine about Jesus Christ as equal to that of Christianity. He said, “What do I believe about Jesus Christ? I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the savior of mankind.”

OK, Mitt. But do you really want to get into what that means for you?”


Thanks for that article.

Regards,
Star Traveler


31 posted on 12/07/2007 8:36:46 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

You know, you pretend to be this great expert on the failings of Mormonism, but all you’ve done is come across as an intolerant bigot.

Romney said he believes “Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind.”

Who do you think you are to disparage this? Are you privy to information that is lurking in Romney’s heart and mind that disproves this?

You remind me of a Baptist pastor I encountered when I was a Mormon missionary. He approached us while we were giving out free copies of the Book of Mormon on a street corner and yelled, “You Mormons are not Christians! You do not believe Jesus is God!”

I then flipped open the Book of Mormon to Mosiah 3:5-8 and asked him to read it out loud. He did. Here’s the text:

Mosi 3:5-8 For behold, the time cometh, and is not far distant, that with power, the Lord Omnipotent who reigneth, who was, and is from all eternity to all eternity, shall come down from heaven among the children of men, and shall dwell in a tabernacle of clay, and shall go forth amongst men, working mighty miracles, such as healing the sick, raising the dead, causing the lame to walk, the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear, and curing all manner of diseases. And he shall cast out devils, or the evil spirits which dwell in the hearts of the children of men. And lo, he shall suffer temptations, and pain of body, hunger, thirst, and fatigue, even more than man can suffer, except it be unto death; for behold, blood cometh from every pore, so great shall be his anguish for the wickedness and abominations of his people. And he shall be called Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and earth, the creator of all things from the beginning; and his mother shall be called Mary.

I then asked him read out loud 3 Nephi 9:15, which states,

3 Ne 9:15 Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name.

I then asked him, “Based on the Book of Mormon, do we or do we not believe Jesus is the Son of God and is God incarnate?”

After hemming and hawing, he finally admitted we believed thusly. So, I added, what do you call a religion that believes and teaches Jesus Christ is the Son of God and is God incarnate? Are we not then “Christians?”

I now ask you the same question and await the display of your integrity or lack thereof.


135 posted on 12/07/2007 10:13:30 AM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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