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How and Why Romney Bombed
TCS ^ | 12/7/6/7 | Lee Harris

Posted on 12/07/2007 8:10:37 AM PST by ZGuy

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To: greyfoxx39
A little early Kelo decision. That’s all. Nothing to see folks, move along, move along.
461 posted on 12/08/2007 7:06:40 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: MHGinTN

Oh, another two things.

1. If Mormonism is condemned for unacknowledged copyings from earlier Scriptures; so is the entire NT canon.

2. “King James translation of the Septuagint”???

[Chortle] Ever heard of the Masoretic text?


462 posted on 12/08/2007 7:10:58 AM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Edward Watson

Why, you ask? Because demons lie and scripture records them lying in ways that at first appear to be saving professions. But the list you gave of professions can be stated by a lying demon. HOWEVER, the way you phrased the response to my statement that a demon could state all of the things on your list without receiving Christ as ‘soter’, you showed the typical Mormonism Apologist deceit of rephrasing to create misdirection and obfuscate the original point of the debate. How telling ...


463 posted on 12/08/2007 7:13:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Edward Watson
As a matter of fact I have you poor soul. Are you ignorant of the mormonesque work they did to expunge Jesus from their translation?... Actually, perhaps we could say the Mormon deceit is more Masoreticesque ... I’ve characterized their efforts as ‘messoretic’ on previous threads at FR. Sorry you missed those more humorous posts.
464 posted on 12/08/2007 7:17:03 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ASOC

I don’t understand why so many people dish crap on Mitt - the Congress usually has a greater effect on people than a president......

Bully! Another person that gets it. Comments worthy of FreeRepublic. Mitt is just one of many candidates for the Republican nomination.

If 15% of the voters paint themselves into a corner and jeopardize the election process by getting someone nominated that isn’t going to win in the general or standing by and not voting because the nominee doesn’t pass their smell test, then 15% are going to put the 85 percent remaining, into the same 7734 upside down and backwards that they are building for themselves.

Of course 50% or so will still be happy after the election no matter who wins, and Congress basically won’t care either way their life goes on no matter who or what the President is. Same with the mainstream media. Just a percentage of the people feel like they don’t belong, kinda like the eight years of WJ Clinton. How soon we forget.

Again, still speculation based on who wins the primary election.


465 posted on 12/08/2007 7:20:56 AM PST by wita
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To: Leisler

“Expert on early, first millennium Aramaics, but on Brigham Young...you take a pass. How convenient.”

Isn’t it though? We each have our interests - mine happen to be the Scriptures and early Church Fathers.

A Calvinist friend and I once discussed how different my interests were from conventional theological studies since I skipped virtually everything between John of Damascus and Kierkegaard. lol!


466 posted on 12/08/2007 7:24:14 AM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: wita
As a reality check this morning, I went back to your homepage and reminded myself:

"Politics: A subject so interesting and intimidating, it is a wonder that anyone would subject themselves to the shark feed called politics."

I need to get back up on my porch and get out of the way of those 'big dogs' snarling and snapping ... thanks for the reminder.

467 posted on 12/08/2007 7:26:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Hmmm, so YOU believe the biblical texts have been tampered with. How telling. “ ... as far as it’s been translated correctly” comes to mind.


468 posted on 12/08/2007 7:27:50 AM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Edward Watson; Elsie
And you have the NERVE to call yourself a Christian and a follower of Christ!?

PERSONAL ATTACK ALERT!

469 posted on 12/08/2007 7:55:45 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney, fooled TWICE by a Columbian gardener...what kind of discernment for POTUS is this?)
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To: Edward Watson
I'd like to ask you one more time, since I answered your questions in good faith and to the best of my ability:

Does God have a father?

Are Jesus and Satan brothers?

Was the Garden of Eden in Missouri?

Fair's fair. Will you answer my questions now?

470 posted on 12/08/2007 8:01:30 AM PST by Gurn (Remember Mountain Meadows.)
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To: Leisler

The true one or damnation is it?

Sorry, I don’t get it.


471 posted on 12/08/2007 8:05:12 AM PST by wita
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To: greyfoxx39

So, I don’t have the right to condemn those who lie and misrepresent my religion while piously cloaking themselves as true Christians?

Actions show the person’s character.

No longer do I tolerate the abhorrent actions of others against me or my religion. If I see you or anyone else continue to lie and misrepresent my religion; rest assured I will hound you and condemn you for the people you are.

Have you seen me condemn or attack other religions in a similar manner? Have I lied, ever, about the true beliefs of other faiths? Have I, ever, misrepresented the true beliefs of those I disagree with? NEVER. So don’t you dare imply I don’t have the right to defend my faith.

WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?


472 posted on 12/08/2007 8:06:31 AM PST by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Leisler
When’s the “I a Jew” speech coming?

Right after the "I'm an independent, agnostic, atheistic democrat"...'cause he will need those votes to make up for the Christians.

473 posted on 12/08/2007 8:17:43 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney, fooled TWICE by a Columbian gardener...what kind of discernment for POTUS is this?)
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To: restornu; Elsie

Come on, Resty. You KNOW you mormons use the JOD to prove YOUR points, and aren’t held to the “Not Authoritative” code.


474 posted on 12/08/2007 8:20:09 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney, fooled TWICE by a Columbian gardener...what kind of discernment for POTUS is this?)
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To: Edward Watson
I respect and admire Robert Millet - he was absolutely right in what he said (and thanks btw, for the video clip). Milk before meat.

Okay. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, even though you've refused to answer three simpel, straightforward questions. Now you're endorsing the obfuscatory approach Millet is telling these kids to use?

Yesterday, I gave you straightforward answers to what you admitted were "trick" questions.

Yet you still won't answer mine. Your silence says more than Millet and his promise of double-talk as the best approach.

475 posted on 12/08/2007 8:26:51 AM PST by Gurn (Remember Mountain Meadows.)
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To: Leisler; colorcountry; FastCoyote; MHGinTN; Pan_Yans Wife; svcw; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
I have to laugh sometimes, at the fact that Brigham and all the other old prophets (and even Joseph Smith) must be spinning in their graves over being called liars and kooks on these threads. IT ISN'T SCRIPTURAL!

"It is SO Clintonian....for "the meaning of IS.....IS"....read, "Well, you see, Brigham REALLY didn't MEAN what he said, but if he DID mean what he said, he wouldn't SAY it today because even when he said it, he wasn't speaking as a Prophet, because he was off-the-prophecying-clock at the time he SAID that, but ON-the prophecying-clock when he said OTHER things.

THEN, if you ask, "Well, what was the prophecying-ON-the clock SCHEDULE", you will be told, "it depends on WHAT THE PROPHECY IS...IS!

476 posted on 12/08/2007 8:35:14 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney, fooled TWICE by a Columbian gardener...what kind of discernment for POTUS is this?)
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To: Gurn
Did you notice the "Have you seen me condemn or attack other religions in a similar manner? ... NEVER." Coming so shortly after his long diatribe attacking the foundational principles of Christianity, do you think it ever seeps through that he's deceitful? Probably doesn't even see the contradictory nature ...
477 posted on 12/08/2007 8:37:10 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Edward Watson; colorcountry; FastCoyote; MHGinTN; Pan_Yans Wife; svcw; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
I will hound you and condemn you for the people you are.

HOUND THREAT ALERT!

478 posted on 12/08/2007 8:42:26 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney, fooled TWICE by a Columbian gardener...what kind of discernment for POTUS is this?)
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To: MHGinTN; greyfoxx39

I often wonder about the claim that any discussion is an “attack” on any given faith.

If you are a believer of your faith, you do not need discussion with others. Others who disagree with you cannot tear your faith asunder. I see faith as a personal committment to God... a dialogue with God. And no person can come between me and the fellowship that I have with Him.

It is my job as a believer to hold tight to the principles that God has given to me, through faith. It is not my job to attempt to convert those who turn a deaf ear to my arguments. I let them go on their merry way.

At the same time, a believer of a different faith cannot win me over to his side. My faith is grounded in the truth of the Lord. I have nothing to fear from another of a different faith.

Those who call for censorship or use personal attacks are not winning souls to their faith.

And perhaps, that is the blessing in disguise. If they continue to wail and moan about persecution, that is their own personal struggle. It has nothing to do with me and my faith in the Lord.


479 posted on 12/08/2007 8:48:59 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Edward Watson
Have I lied, ever, about the true beliefs of other faiths? Have I, ever, misrepresented the true beliefs of those I disagree with? NEVER.

You seem to do an adequate job of lying about your own Chruch doctrine.

480 posted on 12/08/2007 8:51:53 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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