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To: pby
The benefit and stated purpose of this speech, to the LDS church and to all religions and faiths, was that the speech reminded us of just how important Freedom of Religion is to the character and essence of the United States. There's a reason it part of the First Amendment. It was that important to our Founders.

As to the rest of your post, you engage in conspiracy theories and half truths. None of which deserves further commentary. Nice try at changing the subject though.

24 posted on 12/06/2007 10:55:57 AM PST by Reaganesque (Charter Member of the Romney FR Resistance)
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To: Reaganesque
As to the rest of your post, you engage in conspiracy theories and half truths.

If this is the best that the Mitt supporters can do relative to Mitt's public record associated with his support of gay rights, abortion rights, sanctuary cities, gun control and other liberal policies...you lose!

You are going to have to stay with the "Mitt has evolved (a.k.a flip-flopped) on these issues and is now a conservative on these issues" explanation. It is not a good one...but it sure beats the conspiracy theory accusation!

37 posted on 12/06/2007 11:10:51 AM PST by pby
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To: Reaganesque
[T]he speech reminded us of just how important Freedom of Religion is to the character and essence of the United States. There's a reason it part of the First Amendment. It was that important to our Founders.

Actually, the primacy of the First Amendment was not exactly intended by the Founders.

Seventeen amendments were original proposed to make up the Bill of Rights. Several of them (speech and religion, for example) were combined until Congress had twelve amendments to propose to the states for ratification.

The first and second proposed amendments were not ratified (the first dealt with apportionment of the House of Representatives, and the second, dealing with limits on Congress's ability to raise salaries, was finally ratified about 200 years later as the 27th Amendment).

So . . . the states ratified only the Amendments proposed as numbers three through twelve. The First Amendment contained in the Bill of Rights was actually the third B.O.R. amendment proposed by Congress.

After learning that in Ms. Helen Taylor's eleventh-grade history test almost twenty-five years ago, that's only the second time I've been able to use that little tidbit.

Catharsis.

94 posted on 12/06/2007 7:08:01 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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