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Going AWOL
Details ^ | January 2007 | Melba Newsome

Posted on 12/06/2007 7:48:10 AM PST by reaganaut1

Since the beginning of the war, hundreds of deserters have fled to Canada, fearful of being jailed or forced to return to duty. It’s starting to look like they need not have bothered: Despite troop shortages and problems hitting recruitment targets, Pentagon officials say it would be a poor use of time to go after deserters. “We don’t actively look for a deserter or have bounty hunters who go out knocking on doors,” Army spokesman Major Nathan Banks says. “It doesn’t serve our purpose to lose manpower or focus in the global war on terror to find them, because the system is set up [so] that they’ll be caught.” The military enters deserters’ names into a national criminal database at the FBI, which is alerted when an absconder is stopped for a routine traffic violation or does anything to trigger a background check. The official military line remains that desertion is grave misconduct. “The Army has always taken the offense of desertion very seriously and taken legal action accordingly,” the Army’s official Desertion Fact Sheet reads. “During periods when our Nation is at war, addressing desertion becomes even more critical as any case of desertion represents an erosion of readiness, impacting our mission to defend the Nation.”

But Lawrence A. Hildes, a Bellingham, Washington, attorney who has represented about two dozen military deserters since the war began, says that the time it would take to track each deserter influences the military’s approach. “The military doesn’t have the personnel to fight the war—they certainly don’t have the personnel to run around chasing people down,” he says. The wisdom appears to be that as long as they don’t attract the attention of law enforcement, deserters are in little danger of getting caught.

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This article was mentioned in the Wall Street Journal's "Informed Reader" column today (Dec 6) on page B8.
1 posted on 12/06/2007 7:48:10 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
How long by regulation before AWOL becomes desertion?

IIRC, some of these freaks are gone a year and the military only goes after them for AWOL, when they fit the bill for desertion.

2 posted on 12/06/2007 7:50:46 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: reaganaut1

Why always Canada? Does Canada provide some sort of special sanctuary to deserters?


3 posted on 12/06/2007 7:51:52 AM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (If someone is 'turning his life around' you best stay away.)
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To: reaganaut1
Despite troop shortages and problems hitting recruitment targets

Neither of which exist. LOVE the way the Junk Media simply makes facts up sell their hyped up, valueless product

4 posted on 12/06/2007 7:57:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie (What drug pushers do with drugs, politicians do with government subsides)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

No we don’t, but American liberals seem to think we do. Even during the Vietnam war, deserters were extradited on request.


5 posted on 12/06/2007 7:57:33 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: reaganaut1

To cite one notable celebrity hypocrite...”Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”.

There wasn’t a day in the 4 years I was in the military service that I didn’t regret my enlistment, and counted the days off on a calendar. It takes self discipline to honor a contract. Years later, I am a professional making great money, and I owe it all to the G.I. Bill getting me through an M.S. degree in college, and the self discipline to ride out the storms that hit me periodically throughout my life.


6 posted on 12/06/2007 8:01:47 AM PST by deathrace2000 ("I regret that I have but one life to give for my country", Nathan Hale before execution.)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Cuz it beats the hell out of Mexico ;)


7 posted on 12/06/2007 8:02:31 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Doctor Raoul
How long by regulation before AWOL becomes desertion?
The threshold is 30 days, but it also depends on "intent." If a soldier leaves with the intent of eventually coming back, technically, it's still just AWOL. The UCMJ doesn't require automatically changing the charge to desertion after 30 days.
8 posted on 12/06/2007 8:03:54 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks
Why always Canada? Does Canada provide some sort of special sanctuary to deserters?

They did during Vietnam for draft avoiders. But they can, and usually have, returned deserters.

9 posted on 12/06/2007 8:11:00 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: reaganaut1

Canada my foot. I know one working in a local restaurant. The military doesn’t even seem to care.


10 posted on 12/06/2007 8:12:01 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Used to be 30 days +.


11 posted on 12/06/2007 8:15:45 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Because they think that Canada is liberal and won’t throw them out, and because it’s close by, easy to enter, and has a similar culture and language.


12 posted on 12/06/2007 8:16:08 AM PST by RonF
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To: AppyPappy
I know one working in a local restaurant. The military doesn’t even seem to care.

Turn him in to the military police. I'll be they'll have him arrested.

13 posted on 12/06/2007 8:18:16 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: reaganaut1

I know this idea may be met with derision and distaste, but if the military isn’t willing to go after deserters...

...what if someone else does?

Do you think the military would be pleased if they got a phone call as to where to find a deserter, bound hand and foot, waiting nearby a military base for the MP’s to come and escort his sorry butt to the stockade?

A no-lose situation: Save the military the trouble of using the manpower to find these miscreants, and a dirty traitor get the justice they so richly deserve.

What say you?


14 posted on 12/06/2007 8:18:44 AM PST by hoagy62 (Happily watching the Left go full-goose bozo.)
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To: MNJohnnie

It’s from Details magazine... they’re sort of the college drop-out hipster version of GQ. I expect nothing less than a wide range of half-truths, outright lies, and general fantasyland idiocy from a magazine that ranks news about Kanye West’s hair products right up there with what is happening in the WOT.


15 posted on 12/06/2007 8:23:13 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: hoagy62
Do you think the military would be pleased if they got a phone call as to where to find a deserter, bound hand and foot, waiting nearby a military base for the MP’s to come and escort his sorry butt to the stockade?

A no-lose situation: Save the military the trouble of using the manpower to find these miscreants, and a dirty traitor get the justice they so richly deserve.

What say you?

I say if you get caught doing it youi better be prepared to face kidnapping charges.
You don't have to do it yourself. Call the MPs and let them pick him up.

16 posted on 12/06/2007 8:25:06 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: AppyPappy

Think years from now. Guy applies for a mortgage, any kind of job requiring a background/employment check - he’s toast. And there’s no statute of limitations, either.


17 posted on 12/06/2007 8:26:39 AM PST by frankenMonkey (101st Army Dad)
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To: deathrace2000

BINGO!

BTTT...


18 posted on 12/06/2007 8:34:50 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks
Why always Canada? Does Canada provide some sort of special sanctuary to deserters?

Come on, think a bit. Which country would you run to if you were trying to renig on a promise(I.E.: enlistment), Mexico or Canada?

19 posted on 12/06/2007 8:36:12 AM PST by calex59
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To: reaganaut1

Deserters’ discharges are all the retribution needed. Try finding a job in the U.S. with a DD or BCD.


20 posted on 12/06/2007 8:38:55 AM PST by pabianice
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