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Yes, there needs to be a House & Senate investigation into this report! I smell politics that just put the world at risk!
1 posted on 12/05/2007 12:47:20 PM PST by HD1200
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YES! A VERY DISTURBING TURN AROUND.


2 posted on 12/05/2007 12:49:05 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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NIE: Partisan dem-operative misinformation..
the best that treason can buy.
3 posted on 12/05/2007 12:49:48 PM PST by evad
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How does a president who is villified by ultra-partisan intelligence operatives get a handle on this?

How is a Congress controlled by the ultra-partisan Democrats ever do a serious investigation into this?


4 posted on 12/05/2007 12:53:25 PM PST by rightazrain ("Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. " -- Ernest Hemingway)
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I’d like to see a Republican elected who will purge the government bureaucracy of all these worthless people who live on the taxpayer’s dime.

Most of the time, there are three people doing the work of one. Almost all of them vote democrat.


5 posted on 12/05/2007 12:54:01 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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As has been pointed out, something has changed. What, or who, changed it? Is this change the truth or is it the usual Bush hating operatives at work?


6 posted on 12/05/2007 12:54:02 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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bump


7 posted on 12/05/2007 12:54:05 PM PST by Freee-dame
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This report has the effect of drawing a line in the sand. Being, if the President continues to challenge Iran about they’re Nuclear intentions, the Libralcrats can claim he is lying and misleading the American people and they must investigate and or impeach.
9 posted on 12/05/2007 12:55:45 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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There won’t be an investigation. Next year is an election year. And the left and the Dems finally got what they wanted: a safer world for America’s enemies.
10 posted on 12/05/2007 12:57:02 PM PST by mojito
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John Bolton was on a couple of channels last night expressing his doubts, based on his personal familiarity with some of the people involved in producing the report...he is suspicious that it was politicized. If you observed how the Democrats reacted, immediately accusing Bush of being a liar because of the report, that does seem like a real possibility. And the Israelis aren't buying it.

It will have the effect of making it much harder for Bush to conduct his foreign policy in respect to Iran, which may be the whole point of issuing the findings they reached.

11 posted on 12/05/2007 12:58:04 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Career Clintonistas at State and DOD have spent the past seven years sabotaging Bush. And he’s stood still for it.


12 posted on 12/05/2007 12:59:40 PM PST by pabianice
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Read “Sabotage” by Rowan Scarborough. It will make your blood boil but you will see the exact actions that these partisans in the State Dept and CIA are taking to backstab Bush and our foreign policy. This NIE is no surprise considering what they’ve been doing for the last 6 years.

For instance, how many people in America have ever heard the contents of an NIE prior to the last three years. Now, they get leaked to the NYT prior to their release to the White House and Bush basically has to release the contents in order to disprove that mornings above-the-fold headlines.


13 posted on 12/05/2007 12:59:45 PM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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“hyper-partisan anti-bush officials at work?”

no!!! that’s impossible.


14 posted on 12/05/2007 1:02:36 PM PST by ripley
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Ping. More developments...and dots to connect.

I’m thinking Iran stopped work in 2003, the question is:

Did they restart? I think the answer is yes, I’m leaning on Israel’s take here.


15 posted on 12/05/2007 1:05:44 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Fred Thompson's Federalism is right on.)
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It doesn't just contradict what was being said in the past, it contradicts itself.

If Iran halted it's nuclear weapons program, shouldn't the date by which we think they could attain a nuclear weapon be being pushed out each year since they aren't making progress toward that goal?

However, the dates by which they think Iran could have a nuclear weapon have remained the same as they were two years ago when the report suggested that Iran had a very active nuclear weapons program.

So the report is saying that they have made as much progress as they thought they would with an active program, but at the same time the haven't had an active program for 4 years.

That is a obvious, glaring contradiction.

19 posted on 12/05/2007 1:09:47 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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I smell politics that just put the world at risk!

As the political Left consistently demonstrates, they care first and foremost about the reacquisition of power -- national defense/security is way down on their list of priorities.

27 posted on 12/05/2007 1:21:40 PM PST by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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31 posted on 12/05/2007 1:36:51 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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Yes, there needs to be a House & Senate investigation into this report! I smell politics that just put the world at risk!

Yes that's it, they're all out to 'get' George. It's all a vile left wing conspiracy theory!! With the help of Gates and Condi Rice they're looking to turn the West over to the 'Islamofascists'. The world's at risk!! OMG, hide under the beds and get the duct tape stat!!

Sheesh, talk about buying into conspiracy theories. Let Bush finally get shut down on random military action and Bill Kristol is out there looking for boogeymen in the grass. The data was wrong, just like it was wrong on Iraq. But don't let that stop the Weekly Weird Standard from tossing out its view, even though it doesn't mesh with anything symbolizing reality. No, Bush has a few diehards left and unfortunately for Dick (fortunately for us not in Republican world) he most likely won't get his war with Iran. Most of his buddies have left offices within the administration. Sorry.

Although it will be interesting to see how the 'frontrunners' try to spin this. Especially St. Rudy of 9/11 whose entire campaign has now boiled down to not much more than bomb Iran. Of course with Podhoretz as an advisor what would one expect?

35 posted on 12/05/2007 3:08:33 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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Clearly either the NIE of 2005/Fingar’s July statement/Bush’s bomb Iran campaign were bogus or this recent NIE is bogus. I don’t see Bush calling the recent NIE bogus, he said he’s concerned that Iran could start the program again. Bolton said the report should never have gone public, and he’s concerned that despite “high confidence” in the findings, the consequences of them being wrong are too great. And various pundits have been saying that it proves that the campaign against Iran nukes worked because Iran didn’t develop such weapons.

Since this went out aimdst the Anapolis talks and Israel and its US loyalists are talking about policy betrayals, and its content has been reportedly known to administration insiders for months, it looks to me that it represents capitulation on the facts of the matter within the administration to whatever groups within the intelligence community that contributed to the report. You can call them Democrats or people who want Islamic world domination or whatever, but apparently they weren’t going to let the predetermined military action against Iran be attributed after-the-fact to a presumption of intelligence that doesn’t actually exist—they learned their lesson from the post-Iraq fallout.

Don’t get me wrong—Iran is obviously beavering away at nuclear technology—but it leaves a sour taste in one’s mouth when it turns out that a cause, even a good one, is being promoted by deception. Specifically that intelligence indicated imminent Iranian nuke deployment when intelligence actually said the opposite, reportedly for many months. That’s what Bush/Cheney/et al stand accused of now and their statements since have been the equivalent of Clinton’s technically-true-but-misleading “I did not have sex with that woman”.


36 posted on 12/05/2007 5:21:53 PM PST by Deathmonger
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More than half the input comes from Defense intelligence - 9 of 15 votes I think...


56 posted on 12/05/2007 9:00:20 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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We need a monster link thread for this... for the pdf links on the UN, EU3, timelines and hearings, media reports (especially Britain)/MEMRI/Chartier and past weapons inspectors fired because Larijani thought they pressed to hard.

Where’s Gen. Sada and the others btw?


65 posted on 12/06/2007 5:54:35 AM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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