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To: from occupied ga
Hmmm Fuel with less energy will do more work. makes sense to me (as long as you repeal the first law of thermodynamics - something that Kongress has done with the CAFE standards.)

There are more dynamics at work in a piston engine than the first law. For example, if the ethanol enables the engine to burn the fuel mixture more completely than it does the straight gasoline, you could conceivably get more energy from the ethanol mixture. Not that the gasoline has less BTUs in it, of course, but that you just aren't harvesting all of them inside the cylinder where they can do useful work. We know there are unburned hydrocarbons left over in a straight-gas engine, because something is left to light off the catalytic converter.

34 posted on 12/05/2007 10:04:44 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon
For example, if the ethanol enables the engine to burn the fuel mixture more completely than it does the straight gasoline, you could conceivably get more energy from the ethanol mixture

Doesn't pass the smell test. Ethanol doesn't burn completely in an ICE either, plus I've never read that this is happening. Do you have a reference?

42 posted on 12/05/2007 10:23:18 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Oberon

I agree. The ethanol allows the fuel to vaporize more completely getting a more homogenous air/fuel mix. This mix burns more completely. Results would probably vary depending on what additives are in the gasoline.


72 posted on 12/05/2007 11:05:23 AM PST by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses, rifles for sister sarah)
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