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To: editor-surveyor
But this proves that you are not grasping. The light from the stars was expanded along with the space in which it was propagated. This is exactly why the appearance of great age is illusion from the Earthly point of reference.

I asked you two simple questions which you seem unwilling or unable to answer. What is the separation speed of the two beams of light from the two flashlights and do you agree or disagree with the basic physics principles namely, Newtons and Einsteins theories?

So once again are you unwilling or unable to answer those questions?

It all took place in the time that God's word said it did, and the stars are really as distant as they appear to be, but from our frame of observation, which is the only frame of observation relevant to God's word, it really was no more than 10K years ago.

Are you saying that light travels faster than 300,000 meters per second? Because that is what you seem to be saying. Or do you think that all of the stars are the same distance from the earth except that the light is traveling at different speeds to get here? All I am asking for is a consistent logical answer or simply call it a miracle for which there is no rational explanation. You choose : )

158 posted on 12/07/2007 6:47:38 PM PST by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
"I asked you two simple questions which you seem unwilling or unable to answer."

Your questions were irrelevant to the discussion, and thus were a diversion. As to my agreement, Newton is fine as long as it is used within it's limits. In everyday life it is perfect. Einstein did leave a few holidays in his GR, but nobody has really established anything well enough to get everyone on board with them in rewriting it, so what point is there in discussing it? The two beams of light depend on point of reference. The opposing directions establish event barriers between them, but algebraically at the flashlights they are separating at 2C. One has to be using the beams to transfer information before the question gets sticky.

159 posted on 12/07/2007 7:24:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: LeGrande
"Are you saying that light travels faster than 300,000 meters per second?"

You're not paying any attention to what I'm saying. You just jump from random spot to random spot without regard to anything I've said. The light becomes shifted because space is expanded, thus the photons arrive at increased intervals, just as a series of dots on a rubber band occur at wider spacing if you stretch the band.

165 posted on 12/07/2007 8:53:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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