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To: LeGrande
What you have wrong is stated clearly at the beginning of his book: that the beginning was "a black hole running backward" which physicists of the 1970s chose to call a "white hole."

And no, he definately does not say that it was created "from the outside inwards;" he clearly describes a sphere of liquid water as being the beginning state of all matter. Further, he does not have the Earth in any motion other than local angular motion, because it is at or near the center of the original mass. It is the rest of the universe, expanded away from the Earth, that creates an illusion of overall great age. That is to say, that space itself is expanding, or possibly expanded in the past but now being constant in size, not just objects moving apart in space. Humphries' universe is also necessarily bounded, and surrounded by water.

146 posted on 12/07/2007 7:42:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor
What you have wrong is stated clearly at the beginning of his book: that the beginning was "a black hole running backward" which physicists of the 1970s chose to call a "white hole."

And no, he definately does not say that it was created "from the outside inwards;" he clearly describes a sphere of liquid water as being the beginning state of all matter. Further, he does not have the Earth in any motion other than local angular motion, because it is at or near the center of the original mass. It is the rest of the universe, expanded away from the Earth, that creates an illusion of overall great age. That is to say, that space itself is expanding, or possibly expanded in the past but now being constant in size, not just objects moving apart in space. Humphries' universe is also necessarily bounded, and surrounded by water.

I am sorry : ) That is such a pile of nonsense that I hardly know where to begin. So I guess I will start at the top.

First of all a White hole is certainly not a sphere of water. Angular motion is not relativity type speed so relativistic effects would not apply, so Russell starts by contradicting himself. Now if space itself was expanding faster than the speed of light we would still have to wait for the speed of light to reach us and the universe would appear much younger than it does and the earth would be much older than it is.

Now if the universe is bounded by water is the water infinite?

147 posted on 12/07/2007 10:34:55 AM PST by LeGrande
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