[Diego1618]

What about the story of the rich man, Lazrus, and Abraham?

Where was Lazarus? He sure wasn't in Heaven....he was in Abraham's bosum.....the grave.

[John 3:13] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

[editor-surveyor]

No argument with John 3:13, but do you mean that Paul was in error when he declared “absent from the body, present with the Lord?”