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U.S. Intel Possibly Duped by Iran
NewsMax ^ | 12-4-07 | Kenneth R. Timmerman

Posted on 12/04/2007 3:20:04 PM PST by dynachrome

Edited on 12/04/2007 3:43:24 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A highly controversial, 150 page National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran’s nuclear programs was coordinated and written by former State Department political and intelligence analysts — not by more seasoned members of the U.S. intelligence community, Newsmax has learned.

Its most dramatic conclusion — that Iran shut down its nuclear weapons program in 2003 in response to international pressure — is based on a single, unvetted source who provided information to a foreign intelligence service and has not been interviewed directly by the United States.

Newsmax sources in Tehran believe that Washington has fallen for “a deliberate disinformation campaign” cooked up by the Revolutionary Guards, who laundered fake information and fed it to the United States through Revolutionary Guards intelligence officers posing as senior diplomats in Europe.

Its most dramatic conclusion — that Iran shut down its nuclear weapons program in 2003 in response to international pressure — is based on a single, unvetted source who provided information to a foreign intelligence service and has not been interviewed directly by the United States.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; intel; intelligence; iran; iraniannukes; kennethtimmerman; nie; nuclear; nukes
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To: dynachrome
BTW, Take care of business in Iran now, or get our soldiers out of Iraq and Afghanistan!

And no-vote in 2012 and 2016!
21 posted on 12/04/2007 3:36:52 PM PST by familyop (Pompius Foolius Romanius)
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To: familyop

Internet Christmas shopping all done.
Time to shop for dynachrome!


22 posted on 12/04/2007 3:38:46 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: PGalt

I was surprised it hadn’t been picked up on FR already.


23 posted on 12/04/2007 3:39:25 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
VERY strange press conference by our President today. Click on this link to comment #6 for the full article.
24 posted on 12/04/2007 3:41:02 PM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: dynachrome

I hear it mentioned on Michael Savage’s radio show on the drive home from work about 45 minutes ago.


25 posted on 12/04/2007 3:43:45 PM PST by PGalt
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To: dynachrome
The impact of the NIE on US policy options is enormous.

Our hands are tied in the UN. The President's hands are tied with the Congress and possibly a hard majority of the US voting public.

This forces the President to either act unilaterally or not at all. Same for Israel.

The risk of nuclear war in the middle-east has increased substantially.

Is it POSSIBLE that the CIA and DIA signed off on this?

26 posted on 12/04/2007 3:44:35 PM PST by Mariner
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To: dynachrome

“Newsmax sources in Tehran”

Oh really. I bet.

Newsman is a joke, akin to Salon.com. The report is the consensus of 16 intelligence agencies. The conclusions are vetted by all and where they disagree with the majority or have a different take is noted in footnotes. I have no idea who “authored” it but it is really irrelevant as it was done with input and its content was accented to by the 16 intelligence agencies. It may well be wrong but who wrote it is irrelevant.


27 posted on 12/04/2007 3:45:18 PM PST by DemEater
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To: dynachrome

Damn you Muslims - always duping us..

28 posted on 12/04/2007 3:50:14 PM PST by Riodacat ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - WC)
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To: DemEater
It may well be wrong but who wrote it is irrelevant.

No. Not at all. Newsmax credibility aside.

29 posted on 12/04/2007 3:50:19 PM PST by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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To: PGalt

“Michael Savage’s radio show”

Where I picked up on it!


30 posted on 12/04/2007 3:55:10 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: SolidWood

“No. Not at all. Newsmax credibility aside.”

Who authored it is important (all 16 intel. agencies). Who wrote it doesn’t much matter as all the others signed off. This is their opinion, right or wrong.


31 posted on 12/04/2007 4:03:11 PM PST by DemEater
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To: dynachrome
OMG, this is the "great discovery" Bush mentioned?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, you know, I'm -- without getting into sources and that, that's -- I believe that the intelligence community has made a great discovery, and they've analyzed the discovery, and it's now part of our government policy. (emphasis added)

State Department analysis.... I think I'm going to be sick.

32 posted on 12/04/2007 4:04:15 PM PST by EarlyBird
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To: dynachrome

The CIA has a long history of being wrong. In fact, it seems like they are always wrong, irrespective of the circumstances. It’s sort of like the man who can’t tell the truth.


33 posted on 12/04/2007 4:22:30 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: dynachrome
Timmerman is on Savage right now:
http://www.910knew.com/cc-common/streaming_new/index.html?refreshed=yes

34 posted on 12/04/2007 4:37:19 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I’m sorry but puleese. This is backroom politics at it’s finest. We just got Iraq for Iran’s Dr. Evil nuke program. They surrendered in Iraq and we turned down the rhetoric. It was a deal, plain and simple. You and I will never know the details but it’s based on each side’s belief they’ll prevail, given time. What is going to happen is going to happen.


35 posted on 12/04/2007 4:41:47 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: SolidWood
Ping to keep an eye on the story. I wouldn’t be surprised if we had Mullah-moles inside our intelligence services.

Probably, but in the case of the state department hardly necessary. They always are on the side of America's enemies, with the exception of during WW-II. They kind of got into that "habit" during the years so many of them were communists or "fellow travelers".

36 posted on 12/04/2007 4:53:33 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Kenneth R. Timmerman wrote:
my book "Shadow Warriors: The Untold Story of Traitors, Saboteurs, and the Party of Surrender." [Editor's Note: Get "Shadow Warriors" free — go here now.]
Looks like a good book - I just ordered it - thanks.
37 posted on 12/05/2007 12:47:34 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: lonevoice
Strange ... in what way? My mind reading skills over the internet have weakened of late.
38 posted on 12/05/2007 12:51:03 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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