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Huckabee: Let’s Close Gitmo Because the World Doesn’t Like It
American Pundit ^ | 12/4/07 | Staff

Posted on 12/04/2007 12:36:01 PM PST by pissant

Pretty much. Here’s what he said:

MIKE HUCKABEE: I’ve been to Guantanamo, I was there, I guess it’s been about a year and a half ago. I think the problem with Guantanamo is not in that its facilities are inadequate. It’s the symbol that it represents. It’s clearly become a symbol to the rest of the world as a place that has become problematic for us as a nation. I was quite frankly impressed with the quality of the facilities and even the attention to care that was given to the detainees, but that aside, it doesn’t alter that Guantanamo to the rest of the world is a symbol that is not in our best interests to continue pursuing.

Never mind the fact it’s been a valuable source of information. No, he thinks it’s a bad symbol, so it should now be closed.

After the Iowa poll showed that Republican voters like him but found him much less “presidential” and “electable” than Romney, Huckabee sought to build his foreign policy credentials, meeting with a group of retired generals who are in Des Moines to urge the 2008 candidates to commit to opposing torture. After the meeting, Huckabee joined Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in declaring his opposition to the interrogation procedure known as “waterboarding,” and said he would support closing the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a contrast with the other leading Republicans.

Bryan:

That paragraph suggests that you’re easily swayed by a single meeting on important issues that have been before the American people for years…

My take: He’s putting symbolism over substance and putting worldwide condemnation ahead of the security realities. Those are not good qualities in a commander in chief who’ll lead a country that was globally envied and reviled long before the war even started.

Paul Mirengoff:

I suspect that Huckabee required little lobbying. Waterboarding and long-term detention aren’t very “Christian”; they merely keep terrorists out of action and, in special circumstances enable us to find out where we’re going to be attacked next and/or where we can find those who are planning the next attacks. But if Huckabee actually did reach his position based on the views of a handful of generals, and without consulting the people actually charged with protecting this country from terrorists, then he’s even less qualified to be president than I suspect.

With any luck, this will be the end of Huck’s presidential chances.


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KEYWORDS: fool; gitmo; huckabee; huckster
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To: Imperial Warrior
Huckabee is obviously filled with an enormous amount of racial and social guilt he believes the rest of us have and should sacrifice our money, our liberty, our rights, our national sovereignty, and the very rule of law that holds this nation together, in order to redeem.

The first word in your list bespeaks a ton - MONEY. Aren't preachers pretty much always begging for it from the pulpit? I'm sorry, but I'm going to have a really hard time voting for a preacher to run this country.

Yes, I'm Christian, and I believe in charitable giving, but the US Government isn't a CHARITY OPERATION, as many people would like for us taxpayers to willingly believe.

181 posted on 12/04/2007 2:43:31 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: pissant

Bible Thumping Surrender Monkey


182 posted on 12/04/2007 3:05:24 PM PST by samtheman
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To: pissant

My understanding is that people walk away from “waterboarding” physically unharmed. That makes waterboarding “torture” the same way fingernails on a blackboard is “torture”.

No, “torture” is having your fingers lopped off one at a time with a pair of wire cutters. “Torture” is having bleach poured into your open eyeballs. “Torture” is having your kneecaps shot. “Torture” is having pieces of your body blow-torched to black cinder three square inches at a time. “Torture” is having a pair of tree-branch loppers taken to your genitals....

“Waterboarding” may be a gruelling interrogation technique, but it is not “torture”. It amazes me that the scumbag liberals and their allies in the dying, socialist “mainstream” newsrooms have been able to redefine “torture” in America’s daily lexicon, but it amazes me more that the cowardly “conservatives” have let the scumbags get away with it.

Obviously, Huckabee is just another pandering, whichever-way-the-wind-blows coward of a politician who equates a relative handful of noisy, anti-capitalist Euro-socialists with “the rest of the world”. The guy is a loser.


184 posted on 12/04/2007 3:29:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ari-freedom
oh great, he really is a liberal

....nah, ya think? If the MSM and all the pundits think he's grand. He's a lib.

I'm waiting for the stories about airport bathrooms to start up. I'll vote for Thompson, Hunter, or Tacredo... that's about the only ones that I thing I could trust.

185 posted on 12/04/2007 3:30:52 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Dick Vomer
I'm for Thompson.

I'd prefer the Mormon over the Baptist preacher-and I'm Baptist.

186 posted on 12/04/2007 3:36:45 PM PST by lonestar
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To: pissant
There is something about this man I am really scared of, meek and mild, kind of like a Jimmy C. Once he’s in his true colors will show - 'Touchy Feely' and not a strong man IMO.
187 posted on 12/04/2007 3:50:06 PM PST by Eighth Square
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To: Man50D
Do you really think that history will even consider amnesty as more than a footnote (it didn't pass by the way and Reagans amnesty did and he is a great President).

George W Bush will go down in history as the American President who changed the Middle East for the better. He will be the President who brought that region into the 21st century. Those are the type of things history remembers. Truman, Reagan, Teddy and FD Roosevelt are all considered great for different reasons.

It doesn't really matter that you do not like Bush or can't see how he will be considered great because you are a faceless person acting like a know it all punching on a keyboard. Bush is a two term American President who against all opposition and pressure changed the world and avoided certain defeat from traitors in his Congress actively trying to thwart our soldiers in battle by sticking to his convictions. Bush's steadfastness has helped to save this nation, and that is a fact.

188 posted on 12/04/2007 4:26:34 PM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: pissant
Oh this is great!! Tax 'em Mike takes the correct position of closing Guantanamo Bay (for the absolutely wrong reason though) after he gets the beginning of a nod from the war happy Podhoretz and little Billy Kristol. What will the Podster and Billy have to say about this? I think they've accepted they can't even begin to sell St. Rudy of 9/11, and Fred's wandered off somewhere to take a nap, so who do hint they may get behind now? A former governor of Arkansas hoping his 'Christian faith' will get him through the heartland and they'll eventually get higher taxation (which the Huckster also supports). But now he's not beating the war drum as much now and suggesting closing a jail that should have been closed a long time ago. HAHAHAHA. Who's a fake conservative to support?!?

The new 'conservative' wing of the party that led the party down this ridiculous path of police actions are going to end up tanking every 'frontrunner' out there. I think I should send them a thank you note.

189 posted on 12/04/2007 4:29:16 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Man50D
By the way, since you are insinuating either I or Bush are Benedict Arnold I would ask you to consider Murtha, Kerry, Pelosi, Clinton, and Durbin and ask yourself, who would have stood up to them if Bush didn’t? Bush also had the courage to stand up to Gore when he tried to steal the election and true liberals hate his guts.
190 posted on 12/04/2007 4:30:03 PM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: ari-freedom
normy said greatest president in history and not the greatest president that your imagination can come up with.

Anyone who considers Bush the greatest President in history is using a lot of imagination.
191 posted on 12/04/2007 4:49:12 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: pissant; fieldmarshaldj; LdSentinal; Norman Bates; goldstategop

He’s a pro-life, pro-gun liberal. And he could very well be the Republican nominee.


192 posted on 12/04/2007 4:55:50 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: normy
It doesn't really matter that you do not like Bush or can't see how he will be considered great because you are a faceless person acting like a know it all punching on a keyboard.

It doesn't matter to you and yet type out a long diatribe on your keyboard filled with insults simply because someone disagrees with you. LOL!!!!
193 posted on 12/04/2007 4:56:36 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Man50D

Got it.


194 posted on 12/04/2007 5:05:38 PM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: normy
By the way, since you are insinuating either I or Bush are Benedict Arnold I would ask you to consider Murtha, Kerry, Pelosi, Clinton, and Durbin and ask yourself, who would have stood up to them if Bush didn’t?

Politicians don't lead, they follow. Bush wouldn't have stood up to them if millions of Americans, including myself, hadn't consistently denounced their positions on several issues.

Bush also had the courage to stand up to Gore when he tried to steal the election and true liberals hate his guts.

You can't see the forest for the trees. It had nothing to do with courage. Bush had stand up to Gore or Bush would have lost the election! That's called politics, not courage.
195 posted on 12/04/2007 5:07:05 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: ari-freedom

He is to the left of Rudy.


196 posted on 12/04/2007 5:13:02 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Clintonfatigued

not after this episode.


197 posted on 12/04/2007 5:15:35 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Man50D

Ditto.


198 posted on 12/04/2007 5:17:59 PM PST by Dante3
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To: ari-freedom

We have three Rs running who are worthy of occupying the office of the president. They are Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo.


199 posted on 12/04/2007 5:21:47 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Clintonfatigued

And if this pro-illegals, nanny-stater, tax-hiker is our nominee, we’re f**ked. He can kiss my ass before I vote for him.


200 posted on 12/04/2007 5:25:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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