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To: wideawake; puroresu; Carry_Okie
You're wrong. You deliberately ignored the part where they specifically said ( regarding the Citizenship Clause ) :
" The evident meaning of these last words is, not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance."

How an illegal immigrant qualifies under that definition is beyond me.

114 posted on 12/05/2007 8:02:17 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia
How an illegal immigrant qualifies under that definition is beyond me.

Illegal immigrants don't. But their children do.

116 posted on 12/05/2007 8:08:17 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Cyropaedia

Exactly, and jurisdiction and location aren’t the same thing. A baby born to illegals is in our location, but not subject to jurisdiction as the framers of the 14th Amendment understood it.


126 posted on 12/05/2007 9:17:52 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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