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Dark Suspicions about the NIE
Commentary ^ | December 3, 2007 | Norman Podhoretz

Posted on 12/04/2007 8:44:58 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

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1 posted on 12/04/2007 8:44:59 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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But I entertain an even darker suspicion. It is that the intelligence community, which has for some years now been leaking material calculated to undermine George W. Bush, is doing it again.

I think that is a grand slam and correct.

2 posted on 12/04/2007 8:48:14 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Unfortunately, regardless of the motivations and conclusions of this NIE, it further undermines the credibility of any findings from the CIA.


3 posted on 12/04/2007 8:50:17 AM PST by Truth29
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To: West Coast Conservative

Norman Podhoretz nails it! We have every right to be suspicious. A great essay.


4 posted on 12/04/2007 8:51:05 AM PST by AZhardliner
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Does anyone have a link to the actual text of the NIE??


5 posted on 12/04/2007 8:55:41 AM PST by Frobenius
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To: West Coast Conservative

They were lying then. Are they lying now?

If they’re lying now, were they lying then?


6 posted on 12/04/2007 8:57:00 AM PST by Lexington Green (Not one dime to Hollywood traitors)
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To: MaestroLC

Same view here.


7 posted on 12/04/2007 8:58:20 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf
8 posted on 12/04/2007 8:59:03 AM PST by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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But we know with high confidence that these officials are the experts, the people who successfully predicted the Indian nukes and the Pakistani nukes, right? </sarcasm>


9 posted on 12/04/2007 9:01:35 AM PST by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London, Salt Lake City)
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Agree totally.

With 3,000 centrifuges running, they are up to something. And it won’t take until 2015 either.

Zero confidence in their report.


10 posted on 12/04/2007 9:03:59 AM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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I agree. Now suppose this little game works and then Iran tests a functional nuke in a year or so. Who do you think will be blamed? The left will excorciate Bush for not destroying their nuclear facilities and for sitting around talking when action was needed. Bush needs to keep this NIE as 'exhibit A' in case this scenario occurs.

As an aside, we don't know what Israel will do yet if they think Iran is about to test a nuke.

11 posted on 12/04/2007 9:06:49 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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I have to state, I do not understand The flip on the North Korea and Iran Nuclear plants!
12 posted on 12/04/2007 9:07:33 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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riiigghhhhtt....


13 posted on 12/04/2007 9:26:50 AM PST by maica
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In other words, a full two years after Iran supposedly called a halt to its nuclear program, the intelligence community was still as sure as it ever is about anything that Iran was determined to build a nuclear arsenal. Why then should we believe it when it now tells us, and with the same “high confidence,” that Iran had already called a halt to its nuclear-weapons program in 2003?

Precisely why I don't believe a word of it. This is an attempt to tie the President's hands...nothing else.

14 posted on 12/04/2007 9:27:40 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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Anyone who knows anything about Iran knows that they are dead set on getting nuclear weapons, and will stop at nothing to get them. They all want to return Iran to world power status, even those who oppose this regime. This regime needs it to stay in power, and its ideology will allow it to use nukes.

Meanwhile, they are killing Americans in Iraq.

Bush should have taken out Syria's regime in 2003 or 2004, and worked to topple Iran from outside ever since. Instead, he has diddled while Iran learned.

15 posted on 12/04/2007 9:32:07 AM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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Yellowcake.


16 posted on 12/04/2007 9:32:19 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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This estimate virtually assures the world that Israel will act unilaterally...perhaps with nukes.


17 posted on 12/04/2007 9:49:25 AM PST by Mariner
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To: MaestroLC
"I think that is a grand slam and correct."

It is a very peculiar turnaround, to say the least, and couched in very equivocal, CYA language. I think suspician is very much warranted.
18 posted on 12/04/2007 9:49:33 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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But I entertain an even darker suspicion. It is that the intelligence community, which has for some years now been leaking material calculated to undermine George W. Bush, is doing it again.

This is pretty much what I just said on an earlier thread. The CIA and the FBI are stuffed full of clintonoids. George Tenet pushed this line while he was CIA director, and there are plenty more like him still in the agency.

Regretably, Bush has failed to weed them out. So it is pretty certain that the folks who wrote this "intelligence estimate" are working for hillary. STILL working for hillary, since she and bill put them there in the first place.

19 posted on 12/04/2007 9:51:41 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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They not only know nothing, they suspect nothing.


20 posted on 12/04/2007 9:51:42 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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