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To: neverdem

The Liberal doctrine of victimology dovetails nicely with the economic incentive to sell a cure for victimhood. If the lefties aren’t being duped by hard core Marxists, they’re being duped by Madison Avenue. Their enthusiasm for acting like idiots is inexhaustible.


4 posted on 12/03/2007 4:27:04 PM PST by Spok
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To: Spok
The Liberal doctrine of victimology dovetails nicely with the economic incentive to sell a cure for victimhood. If the lefties aren’t being duped by hard core Marxists, they’re being duped by Madison Avenue. Their enthusiasm for acting like idiots is inexhaustible.

LMAO!

8 posted on 12/03/2007 4:42:51 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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There’s also a huge liberal doctrine of equating mental illness with physical illness. The result is that medication is viewed as much more effective than it really is. The same liberal doctrine decrees that it’s politically incorrect to point to anyone and say they’re crazy, and to deprive them of their “freedom” on that basis. So when someone is obviously crazy, we say they’re “ill”, give them medicine, and send them on their way. The fact that they continue to send up clusters of red flags indicating that they’re suicidal or homicidal is ignored, as long as they’ve gotten pills and “counseling”.

I really think it’s this phenomemon — pretending people aren’t crazy when they really are — and not effects of the various medications, that accounts for the suicide and homicide rates. If the Virginia Tech mass murderer/suicider had been on Prozac, etc, he’d be added to the stats of the drugs correlating with suicide/homicide. But the simple fact is that despite his profound insanity being perfectly obvious to everyone who came into contact with him, he was allowed to continue living unsupervised in a college dorm, coming and going from campus as he pleased, going to classes of his own choosing, ordering whatever he wanted off the Internet and receiving packages without screening, playing violent Internet games all the time, and turning in disturbing and violent writings for his school assignments (and getting passing grades for them, despite their being completely incoherent!). Most people probably assumed he was getting some medication and counseling, but apparently he wasn’t. Not that it would have made any difference.

There are lots of kids on Prozac and other common drugs who are exhibiting similar (though in most cases milder) signs of insanity, who were exhibiting the same signs before they were on the drugs. Sooner or later some of them are bound to snap, and sooner or later — usually at some point before they snap — somebody takes note that they’re “ill” problem and gives them some pills and “counseling”, and lets them go right back to what they were doing. Once upon a time, people who were obviously crazy were locked up. Now they aren’t. The fact that many of them are also given pills while not being locked up isn’t why so many are acting on suicidal and/or homicidal urges — they’re just getting the opportunity to act on those urges because they’re not locked up!


12 posted on 12/03/2007 5:37:16 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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