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Unofficial: Chavez loses referendum vote (Could be hugh and series!)
Venezuela Press ^ | December 2, 2007 | Not attributed

Posted on 12/02/2007 8:51:20 PM PST by SaxxonWoods

A la página de VenezuelaPress.com nos han llegado los siguientes resultados:

NO: 6.534.648

SI: 5.864.560

Dif: 670.088 (5,4%)

(Excerpt) Read more at venezuelapress.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chavez; communism; dictator; hugo; hugochavez; marxism; venezuela
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To: Tears of a Clown

the problem is that he, analogous to some EU-member governments repeatings giving a treaty up for referendum UNTIL they get a yes vote, can just do it again next year.


201 posted on 12/03/2007 1:31:06 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: burzum

I would have used estaba in a real conversation but despite using spanish as my primary spoken language most days I am still not sure on certain situations using subjunctive tenses.


202 posted on 12/03/2007 1:33:02 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: SaxxonWoods

So if there is a chance in hell, does anybody know what that means? I mean to say, who is his opponent, and how does that reflect upon the current status? Are they trading one little Hitler for another, or is the outcome a real sea-change?


203 posted on 12/03/2007 1:51:01 AM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: roamer_1; SaxxonWoods

K... Never mind... I see that it was a referendum on his dictatorial immortality... Still a nice way to start the morning...


204 posted on 12/03/2007 2:00:00 AM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: All
So, now that the referendum has failed, does anyone know how much longer in his term?

Now, the next election is going to tell the story.

205 posted on 12/03/2007 2:55:54 AM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the work of the media.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Be ready for a Venezuelan kristallnacht.


206 posted on 12/03/2007 3:35:44 AM PST by fredhead (What this world needs is a few more Rednecks - Charlie Daniels)
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To: SaxxonWoods

This is HUGH NEWS.


207 posted on 12/03/2007 5:54:24 AM PST by omega4179 ("Bring me the broomstick of the wicked witch of the west")
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To: fredhead

or a Reichstag moment?


208 posted on 12/03/2007 6:27:49 AM PST by omega4179 ("Bring me the broomstick of the wicked witch of the west")
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To: SaxxonWoods

This sets my beeber off!


209 posted on 12/03/2007 6:29:03 AM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: mware

His term runs until 2012.


210 posted on 12/03/2007 6:44:41 AM PST by Truth29
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To: SaxxonWoods

Jimma Carter says the election was rigged by Bush’s Supreme Court!


211 posted on 12/03/2007 7:28:44 AM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: yorkie

A glance in the mirror tells me I am not the one to comment on a person’s looks, but she is one BUTT UGLY BROAD!


212 posted on 12/03/2007 7:35:32 AM PST by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: LUV W

True


213 posted on 12/03/2007 7:47:27 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Ronin
Hugo is going to find another million or so votes magically in the next few hours.

...And Carter will certify the vote as being free and fair! 

214 posted on 12/03/2007 7:55:06 AM PST by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: SaxxonWoods

It’s all a dog and pony show. Hugo can go around and say, “See, I’m not a dictator.” Meanwhile in the long-run this referendum will mean zip, zilch, nada.


215 posted on 12/03/2007 8:00:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: WoofDog123
I would have used estaba in a real conversation but despite using spanish as my primary spoken language most days I am still not sure on certain situations using subjunctive tenses.

I intially used estaba (or at least that was what I meant to write), but then I remembered that "(no) es probable que ..." and "(no) es posible que ..." are impersonal observations and require the subjunctive tense. If I recall correctly (and I am certainly nowhere near an expert in the Spanish language), "es posible que ..." and "es probable que ..." are special in that their negation also uses the subjunctive tense.

Of course, it would certainly make sense if many forms of the subjunctive tense are not used often in conversation since the future subjunctive has essentially died in the Spanish language (which indicates that the subjunctive tense as a whole might be losing importance). This wouldn't be surprising since the subjunctive tense in other Romantic languages is smaller than that of Spanish and since several languages, including English, have massively reduced the usage of the subjunctive tense. Or it might be that the importance of the subjunctive tense varies by place so I was taught to use the subjunctive just like I was taught the vosotros conjugations in case I needed to use it somewhere.

217 posted on 12/03/2007 9:27:31 AM PST by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I’m surprised that the worst president in US history, Jimmie Carter, hasn’t put in his two cents that the win by the “Nos” was obtained by fraud!


218 posted on 12/03/2007 9:38:43 AM PST by RightWingConspirator (Redefeat Communism by defeating Hitlary in 2008)
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To: WoofDog123

Spanish will never become a significant language in the states. We will succeed in having English declared the official language of the states and that will pretty much put the stop to Spanish. If you wish to lie down and roll over for the illegal invasion of this country go right ahead. I, for one, refuse to. I live in the USA, we speak English here. If you wish to post spanish, please put the English translation with it. Enough said.


219 posted on 12/03/2007 10:05:39 AM PST by calex59
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To: SaxxonWoods

Okay. Who the Hell is this Hugh person?


220 posted on 12/03/2007 10:17:20 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triagle of death)
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