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Closing the achievement gap (Schools must deploy the best teachers to minorities)
LA Times ^ | 2 December 2007 | Staff

Posted on 12/02/2007 8:43:47 AM PST by shrinkermd

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To: Lancey Howard

“Their ultimate (and ultimately unreachable) goal is to finally create what old-time Austrian economists called “the socialist man”, and a society in which all men will always put the good of the community (or “village”) ahead of their own welfare.”

Bull$hit. They are more interested in churning out morons who will bitch and moan, and then pull the lever for a demagogue.


81 posted on 12/02/2007 7:53:08 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: cherry

It’s all about the lowering of standards, from teachers to students achievement. The low income/black/minority/inner city/depressed rural areas, it’s all the same thing.

The govt keeps throwing money and programs (NCLB)at these areas/districts, expecting success when they’re not dealing with the problem. Parents/students/society has to care about education and parents need to take responsibility for their kids and kids need to be held accountable for their own education. Teachers need to stop being a part of a thug, outdated organization (Union) and the District administrations need to be held accountable to the tax payers that fund the districts.

Schools have to stop this *everyone is special, everyone is the same, everyone is talented* crap. All of my kids, 2 still in the catholic grade school, have heard daily how grades don’t matter, it’s not about the grades, being well behaved, respectful, kind, doesn’t matter since everyone is special, everyone is the same. And this stuff does matter if we as a country want to continue progressing. Fortunately, the public high school isn’t at that stage yet since they still have tracks/levels for academics and the NHS, etc.

If we look at the districts that score the lowest, the districts with the worst discipline problems, they’re all in minority areas where the entitlement attitude is the greatest. Or in the low income areas, regardless of minority status, but still the whole entitlement issue. The Dems/liberals did a number on this country and we can see it clearly in our public education system. Hell, in all our education systems. Parochial and private aren’t much better.


82 posted on 12/02/2007 7:55:21 PM PST by Twink
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To: xkaydet65

Well said :)


83 posted on 12/02/2007 7:58:01 PM PST by Twink
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To: jack_napier

You almost have to be a Marine to go into some public schools now.


84 posted on 12/02/2007 8:03:53 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: Twink
Anyone with a heartbeat could get a degree in education. The state boards, now Praxis tests, are ridiculously easy. Even in grad school, the classes are so easy, it’s pathetic. I graduated from Penn State with a different major then went to grad school, 2 master degrees later and the one in education was a breeze. A few years ago I had to take the Praxis tests to be certified in NJ and barely studied, after 20 years, yet still aced them. And, so many fail the praxis. Most ed majors are the bottom of the barrel and that’s a fact.

So where and what do you teach now?

85 posted on 12/02/2007 8:09:17 PM PST by Amelia
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To: ga medic

I understand what you’re saying. I agree (and I’m a female) to an extent. It does seem male teachers, male parent volunteers, etc. provide that little added extra. A male, especially if he’s an alpha male, won’t get the same crap as a tiny female teacher may. I’ve seen it first hand.

I remember way back when I was a young new teacher and one of my high school students was especially nasty. My husband (boyfriend at the time) made an appearance, after an incident, and scared the hell out of the kid. I used to tease my students that I had 3 brothers and a couple teenage nephews that would kick their ass if they messed with me. But mostly, it was about me, the teacher, having control over the class. It helps when a teacher has admin support, parental support, etc., but mostly the teacher has to be able to control the class.

In our high school, the male coaches/teachers usually get lunch duty (more pay too) because it does make a difference in student behavior.


86 posted on 12/02/2007 8:17:25 PM PST by Twink
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To: Amelia

NJ. High School. History.


87 posted on 12/02/2007 8:19:52 PM PST by Twink
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To: All

This makes about as much sense as drafting rich white college kids into the military just to be “fair”.

If the mediocre teacher allows it, the bright kids will learn on their own, in spite of the teacher, not because of the teacher.

The best teachers would fail in the inner city schools.

This is really about trying to dumb down the bright kids, not educate the inner city hard core uneducable .


88 posted on 12/02/2007 8:40:15 PM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: AZLiberty

Heck, even many almost wholly white school districts are not places where a self-respecting person will teach. In the eneys of many parents, the kid can do no wrong, or if he does, then mom and dad don’t want to hear about it. In wealthier districts. many of these kids are orphans with credit cards.


89 posted on 12/02/2007 8:44:54 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: shrinkermd; Coleus; LonePalm; frithguild; Cagey

NJ has the same thing about to be, or is in the process of being, implemented. I have to proposal up on my blog if anyone wants to review it. It is coming to a state near you.

http://blog.newyorkcitycommunity.us/2007/10/15/habla—espanol-senor-corzine.aspx
GOVERNOR CORZINE ANNOUNCES RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE WORKING GROUP ON LATINO AFFAIRS

The group was established with the mandate to recommend the most efficient ways to deliver services to the New Jersey Latino community


90 posted on 12/02/2007 8:45:34 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: shrinkermd

Most good teachers don’t want to teach in cruddy , dangerous schools to student populations with a large percentage of thugs in them. If they cant transfer , they’ll quit or go to private schools to work.


91 posted on 12/02/2007 8:48:45 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Twink
Ok, then, you know (and should anyway, from your personal experience) that we aren't all idiots who are teaching because we "can't do" and who couldn't get any degree but an education degree...

I agree that most education courses are ridiculously easy, though.

92 posted on 12/03/2007 3:23:58 PM PST by Amelia
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