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Stepson recalls a night of alcohol (but no $$ for meds)
The Boston Globe ^ | 12/02/2007 | Megan Woolhouse & James Pindell

Posted on 12/02/2007 5:24:31 AM PST by Andy'smom

ROCHESTER, N.H. - In the hours before he allegedly took five people hostage at Hillary Clinton's campaign office Friday, Leeland Eisenberg sat drinking rum and cokes with his stepson in his trailer.

He drank heavily, and in a fog of frustration and delusion, said he could no longer afford his medication for bipolar disorder, his stepson, Benjamin Warren, said by phone last night. Unemployed, Eisenberg had no money to see a doctor; a local hospital turned him away when he went for help, Warren said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: eisenberg; hillary; hillarycare; hoax; hostages; nh2008; plant; scam; universalhealthcare
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To: ga medic
It was a study of eight people.( just for starters ) Come on. You couldn’t get aspirin pass the FDA with that, and for a reason.
81 posted on 12/02/2007 11:15:21 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: najida

I was commenting on the way you had characterized the main dissenter here, as though he was unbalanced for not following the crowd, that’s all.


82 posted on 12/02/2007 4:16:26 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: sportutegrl
"He couldn’t afford $4?"

Not when you're paying $4/ea for railroad flares. Then there's the beer expenditues...

83 posted on 12/02/2007 4:21:46 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Leisler

And your response to the Alzheimer’s question is????


84 posted on 12/02/2007 4:33:53 PM PST by ga medic
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To: Hot Tabasco

Thanks, I was not even aware that we had a memorial wall. I will check it out.


85 posted on 12/02/2007 4:35:00 PM PST by ga medic
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To: The Worthless Miracle

Why do you put quotation marks around “person”? Are the bipolar something less than people, which is what your quotation marks signify?


86 posted on 12/02/2007 4:37:51 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Andy'smom

Has anyone read the whole article. This guy has had some real problems: beatings from a father, homeless at 21, molested by a priest where he sought shelter and work, arrested for forcing a woman to perform oral sex at knifepoint, jail and the most recent trailor habitation with his mental problems.

This is just ugly every which way.

And he saw a Shrillary commercial how she “saved” someone without insurance.
We reap what we sow.


87 posted on 12/02/2007 5:39:00 PM PST by romanesq
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To: Moonman62

It would not surpeise me if he was.


88 posted on 12/02/2007 5:53:30 PM PST by sport
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To: BunnySlippers
No question on just how common or the prison stats for those 'off meds'. But something needs to be done; and someone must be ultimately responsible here.

These people need to be required to 'check in' - do urine tests - 'something' per being monitored if they are left to their own devices - and pose or promise a threat to others. Otherwise; they need to be hospitalized. . .It is just as insane to imagine; the paranoid schizophrenic is going to take his meds and not otherwise be a problem. Families were on alert here; there has to be a 'call' here to reason; by 'someone'. Something has to change here. If all remote means fails. . .then holding the 'patient' responsible may be the only genuine threat these people need to fear.

Still; beyond and yet still icluding 'mental illness; people make decisions for themselves. Taking 'crack' for instance; while knowing the disconnect with reality; should not excuse the user from responsibility for any crimes committed in his name.

89 posted on 12/02/2007 6:57:31 PM PST by cricket (Just say N.O. to U.N..)
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To: BunnySlippers
No question on just how common or the prison stats for those 'off meds'. But something needs to be done; and someone must be ultimately responsible here.

These people need to be required to 'check in' - do urine tests - 'something' per being monitored if they are left to their own devices - and pose or promise a threat to others. Otherwise; they need to be hospitalized. . .It is just as insane to imagine; the paranoid schizophrenic is going to take his meds and not otherwise be a problem. Families were on alert here; there has to be a 'call' here to reason; by 'someone'. Something has to change here. If all remote means fails. . .then holding the 'patient' responsible may be the only genuine threat these people need to fear.

Still; beyond and yet still icluding 'mental illness; people make decisions for themselves. Taking 'crack' for instance; while knowing the disconnect with reality; should not excuse the user from responsibility for any crimes committed in his name.

90 posted on 12/02/2007 6:57:32 PM PST by cricket (Just say N.O. to U.N..)
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To: Leisler
So.. .re the wisdom question 'if a tree falls in the forest; and no one is there. . .does it make a sound?'

Cannot help but feel you have an answer here. . .

92 posted on 12/02/2007 7:02:13 PM PST by cricket (Just say N.O. to U.N..)
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To: cricket
Physics doesn’t require our presence.
93 posted on 12/02/2007 7:22:10 PM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: ga medic

thank you. I have a son who is bi-polar and thankfully he loves the way he feels when he’s on his meds. Even when he had not found the right meds and was off of them, he was (and is) a gentle good soul. In this man’s case, his mental disease was one component of the whole mess. As a caller to Sean Hannity, a psychiatrist put it, this man didn’t do this because he was bi-polar or because of any one element.


94 posted on 12/03/2007 11:08:51 AM PST by Mercat (Waddle around and make new friends)
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