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To: anita
Good one in #6, anita. Also, McCain admitted in May 1973 in U.S. News & World Report and in his 1999 autobiography that he broke in NVN custody.

I'm not blaming him for breaking--almost everyone does and I'm sure I would too. Also, I admire his honesty in admitting it back then.

I don't know current official military policy, but I've heard that sometimes the best you can do is hold off telling anything at least long enough that what you spill will be of less help to the enemy and less hurt to your brothers in arms.

What had me yelling at the TV was this guy who admitted he broke is now telling us that torture doesn't work and nobody called him out on it. I guess nobody wants to be the one to "attack" the poor old tortured guy even if he's lying.

FTR IMO water boarding is NOT torture as it leaves no permanent damage and apparently it works even faster than torture, thus making the info we get more likely to be timely and useful. Yet the hero says don't use it even to save our own troops.

I want to see somebody say to him, "Did you or did you not break under torture in VN, and if so, how can you say it doesn't work?" It's a simple question, not an attack and it needs to be publically asked.

55 posted on 12/02/2007 6:14:47 AM PST by Sal (Is Senator Kyl trying to rehab himself from Grand Betrayer status? I hope so but don't trust him.)
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Media Nuggets

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###### McClatchy beats Tribune with 9.9% in Loss.

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*** CNBC's Jim Cramer to become NBC's "The Apprentice" Judge. John Harwood out from WSJ into NYTimes. Marc Ambinder becomes Chief Political Consultant for CBS.

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*** Nobles & Knaves -> Ashcroft and Powell.

*** Nina Easton -> Why is Dick Cheney smiling?

82 posted on 12/02/2007 6:22:23 AM PST by anita
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To: Sal
I don't know current official military policy, but I've heard that sometimes the best you can do is hold off telling anything at least long enough that what you spill will be of less help to the enemy and less hurt to your brothers in arms.

It also implies that the shelf life of useful information is short, so the sooner you can apply techniques to a captive, the more value the information will have. That speaks against waiting for a specific warrant on a specific individual, doesn't it?

127 posted on 12/02/2007 6:45:12 AM PST by Bernard ("Rare, Safe and Legal" - what an ideal Immigration Policy should look like.)
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