Posted on 12/02/2007 4:35:26 AM PST by Daffynition
Not only that, but doctors aren’t really soldiers or marines. They wear the uniform and get the pay according to their grade, but they are a different breed of cat.
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A gay life style has medical consequences for everyone! Heterosexual and homosexual alike! Sadly, the medical consequences for the normal soldier of his gay colleague is NOT private.
Please read post #17.
We know that Political Correctness is damaging to society as a whole. It’s surely even more harmful in the military. No normal man wants to bunk down or shower with homosexuals, or have to deal with “gay” lovers’ spats in the barracks.
They keep their sex lives to themselves because of “don’t ask, don’t tell”. Repeal it, and soon a whole smorgasbord of PC sensibilities will be introduced.
If the generals had listened to the medical officers during the 1917-18 flu epidemic, far, far fewer soldiers would have died.
The following is a repeat of post #17:
Medical officers are more knowledgeable of the medical consequences not only for the gays but for the heterosexual soldier as well.
Gays live a life that puts them in very close physical contact with a very large number of other gays who are often sick with highly communicable diseases that non-gay soldiers can a DO get: tuberculosis, body lice, staph and strep skin infections, flu, pneumonia, meningitis, are merely a few of likely several hundred examples.
To make matters worse, once a gay becomes HIV positive ( which might not be known for quite a long time) his immune system gradually deteriorates. This makes him even more likely to contract one of the above diseases and then carry it back to infect the heterosexual soldiers in his unit.
Remember: HIV people living a highly active homosexual live style are walking petri dishes of diseases that the rest of us can and DO get!
IDIOTS who want to DESTROY our fine Military for their GAY AGENDA!!!
Where’s the FAKE Brig. General KERR???
Yeah, they could, but it doesn’t happen. There are plenty of pure REMF jobs, and many a career has been made sitting at a desk.
Hillary is TRIANGULATING!! She wants all the GAY community to know her position but she's going to choose Wesley Clark as her VP so she doesn;t want to TOTAALY OUT him.
I actually thought dadt was one of the best compromises of modern times. It gave homosexuals who wanted to serve a chance to do so and th live their lives. We all knew in the end it was not about allowing service it was about forwarding an agenda in digestible bites..
The sailors who most adversely impact good order and discipline are the ones who get so drunk in port that they puke in the scuttlebutts (drinking fountains), urinate in the berthing and take a crap in the shower stalls. I've witnessed all three events. Then we have the "skaters" --sailors who are tasked with a ten minute job only to disappear for the next three hours. We have the malingerers who need to go to medical for every hangnail and runny nose. Finally, we have my favorite, the thieves who will steal anything from their shipmates that isn't locked down. I'll take a hard-working gay shipmate who kept his sex life to himself over any of the above.
Or do we create ANOTHER separate setup like we had to do for women??
And that's worked so well. At least on carriers where we have no less than two dozen females per deployment who are either medevaced off the ship or return to home port pregnant. Don't even get me started on the male/female lovers' quarrels and jealousy that takes place aboard ship during deployment.
Can also see many lost at sea incidents. Awful dark out there.
Lost at sea incidents are rare in today's navy. Many of them are suicides and happen towards the end of deployment when the sailor realizes he is returning home to the same problems he put on hold when he went underway. Others are accidents. Everyone already knows who the gay sailors are. Nobody's throwing them over the sides.
Along with his brother Dick and his sister Eileen.
The big question in my mind is how to maintain good order and discipline if openly gay sailors are on board Navy ships. Open berthing, very tight quarters, shared heads and showers.
I’ll take a hard-working gay shipmate who kept his sex life to himself over any of the above.
Not disagreeing, notice I said openly gay.
And I’m OLD Navy, work hard play hard. Not too much time off, 6 and 6, port and starboard most of the time away from home port. As to thieves, if I remember correctly, things have a way of working out when no one sees.
Jack
Not by me. And that's with almost 30 years service.
Looks like we got a bigot in the debate.
Any comments about blacks and wops and Mormons and Jews to add to your screed? And do you have a clue as to what you are even talking about?
Source?
I often hear senior chiefs reminisce about the "old" navy. I don't know when things changed but apparently they did and quite abruptly. I enlisted a little later in age in 2003 and after I had a lot of experience working in the private sector. I can attest that today's navy is run like a corporation. Today's sailor isn't a warrior. He is a technician. Diversity training is common-place. Any sort of hazing or physical punishment will be dealt with severely. When we became Shellbacks last cruise, the old salty chiefs laughed at how restrained the ceremony had become.
When I was in the Navy in the Seventies...people would get “Greased” as an initiation. Everyone. Except of course, that 5’3” korean guy who was a black belt in Tai Kwon Do known as “Bruce Lee”...:)
:-)
This could bring a whole new meaning to Neptune’s Bride.
Got an “Old Salt” as a friend. He told me of his experience from around 1972.
75-95, 15 sea, 5 shore and yep, greasing, initiations, crossing the line are all fine memories. Brass plaque above my fireroom’s wtd on the Midway “Mad Jack’s house, beware of animals” Posted by my troops. Still have it.
Jack
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