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To: Hatter6

Umm,neither ‘India’ nor ‘Malaysia’ existed when those Indians were sent to Malaysia-Malay nationalism is a very recent phenomenon(about 25 years old),which evolved due to variety of reasons.When those Indians arrived,both the Malays as well as themselves were little more than Slaves,with little meaningful identity-so there is little question of anyone occupying anyone’s land.

About blaming Britain,well many of them didn’t come on their own initiative,did they???Britain has much responsibility towards these people as they had to the Asian expelled from Uganda in the 70s or those residents of Hong Kong who opted to leave after the Chinese takeover.

Throughout countries of the region-you have indignious populations,Chinese immigrants & Indian-all primarily divided among ethnic & social lines.If they are not classifying themselves as Indians-well they will be classified anyway by the others around them.


21 posted on 12/06/2007 6:50:32 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

‘Umm,neither ‘India’ nor ‘Malaysia’ existed when those Indians were sent to Malaysia-Malay nationalism is a very recent phenomenon(about 25 years old),which evolved due to variety of reasons.When those Indians arrived,both the Malays as well as themselves were little more than Slaves,with little meaningful identity-so there is little question of anyone occupying anyone’s land.’

Umm, that’s great. The Amerindians also had no meaningful identity when the Europeans arrived, they were composed of individua tribes who spent more time fighting each other than the real foreign invaders. So this means there is no question of Europeans (now known as Americans) taking their land. Same goes for the Australian Aborigines. Also, when the East India oil company first set up shop in Surat, there was no meaningful Indian idty, as you have already pointed out. So that means it was alright, by your logic, for the British to take Indian land - right? As for indentured servants being slaves, indentured servitude was VOLUNTARY, and all servants had the right to return home after five years. Unfortunately for the Malaysians, the Indians chose to stay.

‘About blaming Britain,well many of them didn’t come on their own initiative,did they???Britain has much responsibility towards these people as they had to the Asian expelled from Uganda in the 70s or those residents of Hong Kong who opted to leave after the Chinese takeover.’

As I pointed out above, they actually did go of their own accord. Britain (or any other country in the world) has no responsibility to anyone but the their own people. The state serves the nation. Britain is responsible for Brits and Brits alone. If Britain wanted to, it could have said ‘Idi Amin doesn’t want you in his country? neither do we, go back to India’. Not only did Britain allow Indians (and of course people from every corner of the earth) to take their land, they actually gave them grants to help them set up businesses. Have a guess how many Brits (or Americans for that matter) have been helped by the state to set up businesses over the past 30 years. It is a number between -1 and 1.


23 posted on 12/07/2007 11:28:10 AM PST by Hatter6
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