[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Marxists do not follow the Christian principle of absolute good or evil. I would say morality is a groundwork concept, thus illustrating a very important difference between Marxist and Creationist thinking.

If you put a sampling of all Christians sects into the mix, you will likely find quite divergent views of the "truth." A Catholic man can drink but have one wife. A traditional Mormon can have many wives but can't drink. Something here is not "Absolute." Now you might say Marxists are a murderous lot. They spent a lot of time killing their enemies. So did European Christians. The killing may be more to about keeping a despot in power rather than about ideology.

[Dutchboy88]

This is ad hominem. “Christians act ridiculously, therefore ID is incorrect.” The first is, sadly, true. But you are not providing a third world view that is absolutely verifiable. Please, let us examine your alternative. Is there something other than:

Time+space+nothing
Not really held by anyone

Time+space+something impersonal
(energy, mass, motion, etc.) Marxism

Time+space+personal something
Christianity

Fill us in on another alternative that has the scientific support of verifiable evidence.

[reasonisfaith]

I was thinking of more generalized morality. Christians understand God makes the rules, meaning they’re fixed and absolute (whether men interpret rules correctly is a separate question). Marxists think man makes them, so for Marxists the rules are arbitrarily changed according to whoever is in power.