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To: Deo volente
This story eats at me like a vicious cancer. My wife and I discipline our 3 and 1/2 year old girl and our 27 month old son. We spank (NEVER IN ANGER) on the rear end ONLY, with a wooden spoon. We do this after we are certain that they are being disobedient. We never spank during intense moments. After we spank, we pray with them and let them know that we love them and that we want them to learn obedience.

Neither one of us would ever injure a child in any way. The brute force that an adult has oven a child is so overwhelming that it must be TOTALLY under control, and always done out of love.

My children are very well behaved, and people are always asking us for advice on how to raise small children. As a Texas prosecutor, I have to say that I will be disappointed if the DA in Harris County does not seek the death penalty for this monster. The facts of this case qualify it for the DP under Texas law because it was a homicide of a child under the age of 6. May this poor child rest in the arms of her Heavenly Father, who will give her perfect love.

23 posted on 11/28/2007 6:46:59 PM PST by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: Clump
Dear Clump:

My husband and I have very strict rules for discipline in my house.

You are not allowed to spank a child under 1 year old - EVER.

You are not allowed to spank a child anywhere but on their tush - EVER.

You are not allowed to spank them with more than 3 swats. If you didn't get your point across in 3 swats, it's YOUR fault.

You are ONLY allowed to spank for disobedient behavior. If your child is crying or acting out because they are hungry, thirsty, cranky, tired, or need the potty - it's YOUR fault. Take care of them.

My beautiful son, our 3rd, turned 2 years old today. I thank God daily for our 3 precious miracles. New words are coming out of his mouth daily, but even I know I shouldn't expect "please" and "thank you" from a 2-year old.

The creature that stood by and allowed this animal to abuse that dear little girl is NOT a MOTHER. She has no right to be called a MOTHER. A MOTHER would defend their child to the death.

She is a breeder, nothing more.

They are lucky that God proclaims that vengeance will be His. He may have mercy on their souls; because I sure as heck wouldn't have any.

If they need a volunteer to pull the switch, tell me where to sign up!

28 posted on 11/28/2007 7:35:36 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Proud Retrosexual Wife of 14 Years)
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To: Clump

According to the arrest affidavit, the mother told the police the stepfather grabbed poor Riley by the hair and threw her across the room. She either hit the wall or the floor hard, and sustained a skull fracture, which was fatal.

The two monsters are only charged at this time with injuring a child, but I understand the case is going to the grand jury, so I would expect an indictment in the near future. Proving an intent to kill, which would be necessary for a first degree murder conviction, might be tricky.

The death penalty would be too merciful for these two fiends, IMO.


39 posted on 11/28/2007 9:42:40 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: Clump

Why a wooden spoon? Isn’t a hand good enough for such small children? I got hit with a wooden spoon when I was a kid and it was abuse. My family was the classic case of abusive. From the time we were little until I finally said enough and got the he11 out of there. I can remember finally taking that wooden spoon & breaking it. I think its ok to smack/spank a child but hand only! Belt never! I know if DYFS ever came into my house & found I was using a spoon on children that young my children would be taken away asap. I guess if you have no problem with it thats fine but I would check & see if its legal in your state.


41 posted on 11/28/2007 10:06:45 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: Clump
We spank (NEVER IN ANGER)

That is the key. Never in anger. Discipline should be about the child's needs, not yours, and sometimes it isn't the kid who needs a time out.

The brute force that an adult has oven a child is so overwhelming that it must be TOTALLY under control, and always done out of love.

Yes. If you have a child who requires radical steps to bring him under control, then learn to pin, to immobilize. To wrap in a bear hug. Hitting is a drastic last resort, and only for an imminent danger to self or other.

43 posted on 11/28/2007 10:17:34 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Clump
My mom should have used a wooden spoon once. During my efforts to evade her running around the house I passed through the kitchen and grabbed a flat metal pot cover and shoved it down my pants. (Of course that only enraged her more when she swatted her hand against it!!)

We didn’t spank our kids too much - and I must admit that when I did it was more because of the day I was having (hence why I tried to recognize it and not do it too much).

I’m not sure if we said a prayer, but afterwords I would hold them and hug them and tell them how much I loved them and only want them to grow up well, and sometimes that needs discipline.

Usually it was the “time outs” and taking away some privilege's that we used. But each kid was a bit different.

(Me - I sort of thought that after the thrill of the chase the whole spanking thing my mom did was a bit anticlimactic!)

55 posted on 11/29/2007 12:16:06 AM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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