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To: Ramius
#1. No, it’s not OK. Does it disqualify him from the Presidency? No. I don’t really care that much. It’s a negative, but a small one.

I'll admit, I'm old and old fashioned and I believe character counts and that if you can't stay faithful to a sacred oath you took, you probably aren't trustworthy enough to take an oath that gets you the keys to the White House. Clinton, Kennedy, FDR, etc., all proved that.

#2. I don’t quite accept the premise. Need more info. I don’t see that anything was all that “hidden”, and none of the charges seem all that out of line.

If they weren't out of line, then why are Giuliani's aides unable to explain why the expenses were billed to offices that had nothing to do with his security?

If you say that it was just some idiot on Giuliani's staff that made huge mistakes over and over, then would you want a man in the White House who is capable of hiring such idiots?

To be honest though, I think you should file some requests using New York's Freedom of Information laws to get the records and judge for yourself, because I think that is the only way you will come to the same conclusion that many of us already have.
83 posted on 11/28/2007 6:33:29 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I’m not going to get to pick who’s on the ticket. That is decided long before I vote for anybody. So for me to get all lathered up over any candidate at this point is pretty much a waste of energy.

But this is looking to come down between Hillary and ___? Who? I don’t know. I like most of our candidates to a greater or lesser degree. I have the least issues with Thompson. Maybe it’ll be him. I have a few issues with Giuliani... But I have FAR bigger issues with Hillary.

I don’t know who I’m voting for yet. But it won’t be Hillary, as FR seems to prefer.

Rudy has 2nd amendment squishyness, admittedly, but I don’t think Rudy will take my guns. I know for sure that Hillary will. Most here on FR seem to be OK with that. I can’t explain that.


84 posted on 11/28/2007 8:33:03 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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