Posted on 11/27/2007 8:08:08 PM PST by dano1
Fair Tax...LOL. That one is pretty funny. If he is going to try to cover up his fiscally liberal record with silly crap, why stop there?
I hate to break the news to you, but it was Ronald Reagan HIMSELF who instituted the ban on distribution of tobacco products at the White House. Gasp! Yes, he was an evil "nanny-stater" In 1987, Reagan's administration formally terminated the practice of making tobacco products, including cigarettes available on the table at White House dinners. Then the practice making them available to guests at state dinners was then completlely stopped. Previous presidential administrations openly promoted after-dinner smokes.
Using a 1950s magazine ad Reagan did for money to make Reagan out to be a poster child for glorifying smoking is low, even for you. The Dems should really have you on their team, I'm sure they'd LOVE to have GOP synonymously with cigarettes-for-all. Maybe you can dig up an drunk frat photo of George W. Bush and glorify out of control drinking to thumb your nose at alcohol bans while you're at it.
If Huckabee's statements against smoking during pregnancy offers you so much, perhaps you should take a visit to a maternity ward and have the balls to tell all those mothers with premature low-weight babies that smoking like a chimney was worth it and had nothing to do with their newborn baby ills.
I have little doubt that if Reagan was alive today and running for President, you'd be calling him a Marxist and cherry-picking his record as governor (including his three major tax increases) and specifically highlighting his 1967 tax increase as proof he was an "pro-life socialist". Clearly Reagan must be a "nanny stater" when his first budget exceeded Pat Brown's last one by nearly one-half billion dollars, instead of staying the course by inaugurating a policy of "squeeze, cut and trim" as promised. If this 9 percent increase was upsetting to conservatives, the billion dollar tax increase bill MUST have been an outright shock. Senate Bill 556 raised sales taxes from three to five cents on the dollar; the maximum income tax from seven to ten percent; bank, corporation, and inheritance taxes from 5.5 percent to six percent; distilled liquor taxes from $1.50 to $2.00 per gallon; and cigarette taxes from three cents to ten cents per pack. The bill was designed not only to increase revenues and to put the state's finances on an even keel, but also it began a substantial tax shift from an over-reliance on the property tax to the more "progressive" income and sales taxes. Since Assembly Speaker Jesse Unruh had long been dedicated to exactly this kind of reform, he lent his support to the bill and played a major role in steering it through the legislature.
Terrible, having tax-hiking socialist nanny-staters like Ronald Reagan running for President, isn't it?
But keep up the good work spewing your bile. Really looks great the way you trash someone who did more for this forum than any other politician. The more you trash Huckabee, the more exposure he gets. You've been at this for several weeks now and Huckabee just keeps polling higher. He's now polling better against Hilderbeast than any other double-digit candidate in the GOP field. Perhaps if you had something POSITIVE to say about how much "better" Fred McRomneyson is, they wouldn't be sinking in the polls now.
Do you really think his record as governor was that of a fiscal liberal? Then why was he called a “freeper governor” as recently as 2005 and played with his band at the free republic inaugural ball in 2004? Do you think a liberal would have been invited to do this?
By the way, a CNN/Money Tax survey in 2005 under Huckabee showed Arkansas as having the lowest average property taxes in the country - a full $750 below the national average. Before we scoff and state that is because of all the double wides and so forth, it is still much lower than other “poor” states like Alabama, Kentucky and Oklahoma.
Additionally, the gas tax rates, for which he is getting pounded for having agreed to raise, is still nearly $.02 per gallon cheaper than Romney’s Massachussetts rate and narly $.20 per gallon cheaper than Rudy’s NY! In fact, their tax rate on diesel and gasoline is one of the lowest in the country - even after the supposedly “liberal” policies of the Arkansas people and Huckabee to raise their taxes.
In 2004, Arkansas ranked 30th highest income taxed state overall and 23rd when viewed per capita - far behind Mitt’s Massachussetts (10th and 7th) or Rudy’s home state (2nd and 10th - with NY City being even higher!).
So, can you tell me how his policies are that of a big-government tax and spend liberal when compared to those runs against - Romney and Rudy? We cannot forget Fred, and his hired gun lobbyist past. He has lobbied to bilk billions of breaks and money for his clients from the tax payers over the years and even took money from a pro-abortion group to get the first Bush to loosen federal restrictions on abortion.
I can give you all the links if you want, but again, I believe that this current movement against Huckabee has more to do with the powerful elite of our party trying to choose who our nominee should be than it has to do with the actual records of the candidates.
Do you really think his record as governor was that of a fiscal liberal? Then why was he called a freeper governor as recently as 2005 and played with his band at the free republic inaugural ball in 2004? Do you think a liberal would have been invited to do this?
By the way, a CNN/Money Tax survey in 2005 under Huckabee showed Arkansas as having the lowest average property taxes in the country - a full $750 below the national average. Before we scoff and state that is because of all the double wides and so forth, it is still much lower than other poor states like Alabama, Kentucky and Oklahoma.
Additionally, the gas tax rates, for which he is getting pounded for having agreed to raise, is still nearly $.02 per gallon cheaper than Romneys Massachussetts rate and narly $.20 per gallon cheaper than Rudys NY! In fact, their tax rate on diesel and gasoline is one of the lowest in the country - even after the supposedly liberal policies of the Arkansas people and Huckabee to raise their taxes.
In 2004, Arkansas ranked 30th highest income taxed state overall and 23rd when viewed per capita - far behind Mitts Massachussetts (10th and 7th) or Rudys home state (2nd and 10th - with NY City being even higher!).
So, can you tell me how his policies are that of a big-government tax and spend liberal when compared to those runs against - Romney and Rudy? We cannot forget Fred, and his hired gun lobbyist past. He has lobbied to bilk billions of breaks and money for his clients from the tax payers over the years and even took money from a pro-abortion group to get the first Bush to loosen federal restrictions on abortion.
I can give you all the links if you want, but again, I believe that this current movement against Huckabee has more to do with the powerful elite of our party trying to choose who our nominee should be than it has to do with the actual records of the candidates.
We have never been in control of the Republican Party. Probably the highest ranked social conservative was Senator Rick Santorum who was in the Senate Leadership for a while. Some Republican’s like President Bush have been more supportive of social conservatives then others but even he was forced on us by the country club wing. And during his initial coronation many of us thought he would sell us out and were instead supporting Alan Keyes.
Billy, you should go on Jeopardy if you haven’t already. You’re worse than me when it comes to being the master of useless information. How do you know all this stuff?
BTW, did you ever see the Rush Limbaugh/Anne Coulter promo for the Half Hour News Hour? Where Rush is the President and Anne is the VP? The show isn’t very good but the promos with Rush are great. It’s pretty funny when Rush the cigar smoker/Pres lights up a cigar in the oval office and Anne the cigarette smoker says “Isn’t the oval office non smoking?”, to which Rush responds “Not anymore its not”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F49e64yq8lI
President Bush saw it. When he invited Rush to come to the White House a few months ago he laughed about it(during the amnesty bill pushing days), he let Rush light up a stogie in the White House.
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