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'No-Fault' = No Kids
Townhall ^ | 11/25/2007 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 11/26/2007 10:26:35 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: najida
My 17yo has already attained several small academic scholarships and fills out numerous applications everyday. She will not take honors classes but insists on AP classes. She has a 102 average in these classes, wants valedictorian and works part time at the grocery store to pay for her car insurance and her cell bill.

I can remember 7 years ago when I would carry her to bed after she fell asleep eating ice cream.

This is the daughter of my girlfriend and we, GASP!, LIVE TOGETHER!!!! By the cardinal rules set place by some of the people here I am still waiting for her to start smoking crack and prostituting herself. And she is still waiting for me to assault her.....

221 posted on 11/26/2007 2:22:08 PM PST by shbox (BobbyHill: "What's the matter with those people, Dad?" HankHill: "They're hippies, son")
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To: highball

Yes,
I am a presumed woman. :)


222 posted on 11/26/2007 2:22:56 PM PST by najida ("Will you dance at my birthday party?")
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

And you are a misandrist.

There. Now don’t we both feel better for calling each other names?


223 posted on 11/26/2007 2:23:19 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: William Terrell

Erm,
make your case first please, because all you’ve done so far is slam the double X’s and assume we are all in cahoots.


224 posted on 11/26/2007 2:24:49 PM PST by najida ("Will you dance at my birthday party?")
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To: Responsibility2nd; Jersey Republican Biker Chick

So far, knowing her for years and you for a short while.

She’s right and you’re wrong.

But I will give you lots of opportunity to change my opinion.


225 posted on 11/26/2007 2:27:44 PM PST by najida ("Will you dance at my birthday party?")
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To: shbox

You’re one of the best fathers I know, and one of the reasons I believe conservative men (in RL, not here) are good guys.


226 posted on 11/26/2007 2:28:37 PM PST by najida ("Will you dance at my birthday party?")
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To: quant5

Yes. By all means leave your children with this mentally disturbed woman.

I read every word you said. And I can’t say what I would do if I were you. But are you thinking this through?

Will leaving her make you happy? Will your children be better off without you?

You think you’re an ATM now. Just wait till the divorce lawyers get through with you. Hoo boy!

Please. I know you have it bad. And maybe divorce is your solution. Just know it will be the worst thing you’ve ever done.


227 posted on 11/26/2007 2:30:47 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: All

Just for fun!

228 posted on 11/26/2007 2:30:54 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: William Terrell
So the percentage is tiny, yes? Do you agree that women are the largest winners using this option and therefore its greatest advocates?

If you consider single motherhood "winning". I don't. It's not an easy life either.

I don't think anyone "advocates" for divorce. I think most of us just think it should be fair, and IMHO, should not have it's own societal engineering motive that implies citizens need government to make very personal decisions, like whether they should stay married or not, for them.

229 posted on 11/26/2007 2:31:14 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: highball
But until you get the law changed, what right has the state to punish people who exercise their rights under that law?

Same right it has to fine people for not keeping their ad valorem tax tag up to date, using their concealed weapon license in a reckless manner. It's called the police power of the state and it's purpose is to regulate the exercise of rights so that they don't threaten the health, welfare and safety of the people of the state.

The option ofno-fault divorce is destroying the integrity of the basic unit of society, simply because that option is available and easy in comparison to actually working out problems.

It's purpose may be warm and fuzzy, but it is not used that way. It's proper use depends totally and completely on the fair heartedness, integrity, honesty and sense of self governance of the user, with no oversight thereof.

It's like putting a loaded gun for public use at every street corner.

230 posted on 11/26/2007 2:31:15 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
But most importantly it should be done to restrain the growth rate of the scourge known as "no-fault" divorce.

No. . .just do away with the no fault divorce laws.

231 posted on 11/26/2007 2:31:49 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Better to part as friends with a common interest (the children) than to just let years wear on and the bitterness just continues to smolder.

You said an absolute mouthful here. I can't tell you how many families I know that would have been better off parting in the interest of the children.

232 posted on 11/26/2007 2:33:18 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: texgal
My husband did after almost 30 years of marriage. I know several others who did to be with other women just like he did.

Never said there weren't men that do it, and I'm sorry that it happened to you. And further, I don't blame you or your daughter for wanting to have nothing to do with him. I wouldn't either.
233 posted on 11/26/2007 2:41:21 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: William Terrell
What percentage of divorces are filed by women and what percentage use the no-fault option?

Good grief man, do you not understand the original reason for the concept of the no-fault divorce laws?????

Men always had the upper hand in divorces and custody because they controlle the money. What a woman had to go through to get a divorce, let alone custody or support of any sort was utterly horrendous.

I'm no femininazi, and actually despise those type, but for crying out loud you can't actually believe that women got a fair shake in divorce.

234 posted on 11/26/2007 2:45:11 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: HairOfTheDog
That’s too bad... because you’re the only one that’s going to lose.

If I've learned anything, it's that loss is just part of the human experience.

You’ve been taken over by fear.

Some might call it pragmatism. Not saying there aren't good ladies out there. Telling the good from the bad is impossible anymore.

Happy people are just living this one life they’ve been given, as best they can. It beats sitting around moping your whole life that the system sucks so much.

Who said anything about moping? I'm taking action to deal with 'the system' as it is. It isn't action that I particularly like, but we all end up having to do things we'd rather not.
235 posted on 11/26/2007 2:45:28 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: JamesP81
Some might call it pragmatism. Not saying there aren't good ladies out there. Telling the good from the bad is impossible anymore.

I don't think it's ever been easier to tell the good from the bad. Particularly if you can follow their postings on internet forums and tell what kind of personality they have when they think no one is watching ;~)

Who said anything about moping? I'm taking action to deal with 'the system' as it is.

What action? What do you actually propose to fix this, and how do you think it will be made better?

236 posted on 11/26/2007 3:11:59 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

AMEN


237 posted on 11/26/2007 3:15:21 PM PST by quant5
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238 posted on 11/26/2007 3:24:56 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Claud

“Yes, it is painful, and it is terrible, and I pray God I may never have to endure such a trial. But if I do, I hope I remember that God allowed it for a reason, and if I turn it to good use, it can be an immensely powerful force for my own sanctification and the sanctification of everyone around me.”

No offence but you should read the bible cover to cover and follow the example of the character of God. Christ may have died on that cross for all mankind but Christ came to the Jews first in His mission. They rejected Him guaranteeing Daniel’s prophecy of Israel being trampled on by the nations until 1948. In Catecism do they teach about the Jewish Tabernacle being torn assunder by that earthquake the moment Christ died on the cross? Seems like a shredding of a legal or binding covenant to me.

So, there are two sides to this story. Read the old testament again and see what happened to Israel when they rejected His benevolent blessing and decided to be selfish and destructive instead. You want to tell me that God continued to bless Israel no matter what and continue to take abuse for providing blessing?

Not all lessons taught to our species come from blessing friend. Sometimes we CHOOSE to be abusive and your spouse has every right to follow the character of God and break the covenant. Now, I am not Jesus and don’t know all or see all. But I do know abuse and if as a husband or wife you are abusing your spouse you are breaking your covenant, marriage vows and probable ignoring God as well. The covenant can and should end. If your mentally ill there are now medications that can help, but not all people can stop there behavior and no, I myself don’t feel like getting a hatchet in my head (literally).


239 posted on 11/26/2007 3:33:16 PM PST by quant5
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To: HairOfTheDog

Definately have to agree. My ex was nuttier then a fruitcake and I she relinquished custody. Her support (she was a nurse) was a joke $100 per month. She never paid it but I didn’t care as long as she stayed out of my hair. Well, the court caught up to her. She filed a bogus charge and I had to defend against it while the court gave her immediate custody. While she had temporary custody, she would file for child support and because I make a substantial living, it would erase 2-3 years of non-support. She did this four times until my son was 13 and could speak for himself about this supposed ‘abuse’. I got custody every time. That is MY SON!!! I didn’t just leave it to a lawyer either. I collected massive amounts of evidence the attorneys were too lazy to collect. She lost every time, even though she basically erased our son’s college funding.


240 posted on 11/26/2007 3:38:41 PM PST by quant5
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