To: DelphiUser
FC:In fact, Ive been shunned a couple times (yes imagine that with my pleasant disposition! ). Actually it was for pointing out nepotism in a government job, and a few other times as well now that I think of it.
DU:LOL! so, the Church shunned you for your dealings with the Government? (George, we need more tin foil over here.
No, I was shunned by Mormons within a government/university organization because I pointed out that one of the Mormon accountants that governed this agency had hired his son-in-law to do the organization website even though:
1) there was no Request For Proposal
2) an organization website was already being done in-house for free
3) the son-in-law was legally blind
4) all of which I might have lived with but the son-in-law ran through his first allotment of money and I asked in a meeting how far he’d progressed and was told 30%
That’s when I let it be known that that kind of crap had to end because it was my tax dollars as much as anyone’s that were being wasted. That’s when the shunning began, but it didn’t stop there, I really don’t want to go into other nasty details. But it was typical Mormon nepotism at its best.
But let me beat you to the punch - “Mormons are to pure to do that kind of thing”.
Then I shouldn’t mention how Mr. Walker, the Mormon at McCarran Airport, drove a blind businessman operating a bookstore out of the airport.
To: FastCoyote
FC:In fact, Ive been shunned a couple times (yes imagine that with my pleasant disposition! ). Actually it was for pointing out nepotism in a government job, and a few other times as well now that I think of it.
DU:LOL! so, the Church shunned you for your dealings with the Government? (George, we need more tin foil over here.
No, I was shunned by Mormons within a government/university organization because I pointed out that one of the Mormon accountants that governed this agency had hired his son-in-law to do the organization website even though:
1) there was no Request For Proposal
2) an organization website was already being done in-house for free
3) the son-in-law was legally blind
4) all of which I might have lived with but the son-in-law ran through his first allotment of money and I asked in a meeting how far hed progressed and was told 30%
Ya had me at No RFP, but a blind web developer? (There's a joke here somewhere...)
Thats when I let it be known that that kind of crap had to end because it was my tax dollars as much as anyones that were being wasted. Thats when the shunning began, but it didnt stop there, I really dont want to go into other nasty details. But it was typical Mormon nepotism at its best.
My understanding is that nepotism is OK as long as you keep it in the family (It's a joke!)
Seriously, are you telling the truth here that this happened, I believe that you are, but Nepotism is not a Mormon "Value", any more than shunning. Just because some Mormons you know did it doesn't mean it's a Mormon thing to do.
But let me beat you to the punch - Mormons are to pure to do that kind of thing.
Actually, we are all sinners, and screw up all the time.
Then I shouldnt mention how Mr. Walker, the Mormon at McCarran Airport, drove a blind businessman operating a bookstore out of the airport.
OR harry reed, etc. These people are atypical of members, but are still members, hey somebody's got to populate the ends of the Bell curve.
Let me tell you of an experiment I did several months ago.
I was reacting to (shock) a post on FR and trying to fathom how I could have such a different opinion of my church than many on FR seem to have. The theory was that perspective was "More important than Facts".
The Experiment:
I went to church "early", and got a "Good seat" where I would be able to see everyone, as people walked in, i thought ever bad thing i knew about them, I criticized people about extremely petty things from Hairstyle (or lack of hair) to personality traits I was not fond of. By the time the meeting started, I hated everyone there, and was wondering how to go home quietly (If you sit where you can see, you can also be seen.)
Before sacrament started, I repented of my perspective and began to think of all the good things I knew about those in my church, all the Good they did in the Community, Trials they had gone through, faith that they had shared, right down to the petty things, the time I dropped papers and people stopped to pick them up nice smiles, the works, I was crying with Gratitude by the time Sacrament ended for the wonderful people in my ward.
From this, I picked up a phrase, sometimes what you find on the table is what you brought to it.
If you come at Mormonism with bitterness, suspicion expecting to find fault, that is what you will find there, flaws, bitterness, and ugliness, if you come with Joy and love in your heart, that is what you will find there, it's up to you what you'll see. Some times it really is what you bring to the table that matters.
FC, you and I have had our differences in the past, know this that I really hope you find what will make you happy, and that there is one Mormon out there has prayed for you.
God bless you.
172 posted on
11/26/2007 2:20:46 PM PST by
DelphiUser
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