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A Mormon president? New film shows links between Smith, Romney
Deseret Morning News ^ | Nov. 24, 2007 | Carrie A. Moore

Posted on 11/25/2007 6:19:11 AM PST by fallingwater

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To: DelphiUser; greyfoxx39
I am a high functioning autistic, and have never had "good Social Skills" for that reason, I had no intuition on how what I did and said would affect others and how they would react to me. Thus, I became a student of human nature, hope I will always be a student of human nature, studying people's motivations and reactions teaches me a lot about how they work and lets me interact better with them. As someone who is not "in the emotion" of society, I believe I am a better "Impartial Observer" than most.

In light of the above paragraph where you outline your inablility to discern emotion, how do you rectify your "burning in the bosom" - the emotion - that signals the answer for your "truth?"

Perhaps your undeveloped "emotions" got the better of you. Why should we trust your internal dialog, feeling, intuition, or gut reaction when it comes to truth? I will place my faith in the written, proven and true word of God, thank you very much.

281 posted on 11/27/2007 2:39:18 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry

I guess it’s a good thing I have proved the power of the Priesthood to myself, isn’t it? It is true.


282 posted on 11/27/2007 2:44:15 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man

Are you autistic also?

How did you “prove” the power of your priesthood, pray tell?


283 posted on 11/27/2007 2:48:49 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Elsie
Did you READ it??? (or have someone read it to you)

It was a story about a person who was awarded the Silver Star.....and who had more character,honor and Christianity than the likes of you could ever have.

....and who was Polish and LOVED to tell Polish jokes.

redrock

284 posted on 11/27/2007 2:57:29 PM PST by redrock ("Better a shack in Heaven...than a Mansion in Hell"----My Grandmother)
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To: Elsie
PERHAPS YOU COULD ACTUALLY TELL THE TRUTH ONCE IN A WHILE.....

Why Not List Some of the OTHER stories from my FR Homepage????

"It's a Simple Story....A Child Was Born"---(The war on Christians)--http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1306949/posts

“Angel”---(My Gift to Free Republic for Christmas 2005)--http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1544461/posts?page=18

"May 18,1971"--(Evil Exists)-- "May 18,1971"--(Evil Exists)

"Just Another Drunk Indian..."----MEMORIAL DAY--Thread # 2--http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1408698/posts

But then your entire POSTING HISTORY is to NOT post the entire TRUTH....but to slander etc.

Try Again....as I'll stand by every single thing that I've ever written.

redrock

285 posted on 11/27/2007 3:11:58 PM PST by redrock ("Better a shack in Heaven...than a Mansion in Hell"----My Grandmother)
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To: greyfoxx39
Did you see the post number that was a reply to?

Yes, I did.

In any case, you are just digging yourself deeper and deeper.

My Dad once told me when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging, in this case, I still have quite a view.

Facts is facts, guy...all the spinning and obsfucation in the world won't change that. You put up a strawman "test" and then arbitrarily dictate what the results MUST be and then come up with a truckload of stuff to smear those who aren't "worthy" in your eyes to reach the "correct" conclusion.

Speaking of Facts, your post is surprisingly devoid of them.

I did not put up the test, God did.
Is it your contention that God does not answer prayers?
My invitation is to ask God, not Believe in my words.
Worthiness will be decided by the lord where appropriate, I try not to judge (although I am a sinner and mess up all the time)
I am not aware of ever having "smeared" anyone.
I will point out inconsistencies, and logical impossibilities however.

I'm sure you honestly believe in your superior beliefs, but you aren't convincing anyone.

If you consider my beliefs superior to yours, then you should put God's promises to the test and find out for yourself. If that was some attempt to make me look stuck up? Well, I guess I'll just let people decide who is proud for themselves.

As for not convincing anyone, I receive FM from time to time from people thanking me and asking how they can learn more, less now that I just post links to the sites where people can get a free book of Mormon And they can get more information there, including requesting the missionaries come and visit them, so they requests have gone down, but I'm sure the requests for missionaries have gone up since they don't have to be worried one of you will find out.

Anyway, it's your perception, believe whatever you want.
286 posted on 11/27/2007 3:14:51 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: colorcountry; greyfoxx39
I Said: I am a high functioning autistic, and have never had "good Social Skills" for that reason, I had no intuition on how what I did and said would affect others and how they would react to me. Thus, I became a student of human nature, hope I will always be a student of human nature, studying people's motivations and reactions teaches me a lot about how they work and lets me interact better with them. As someone who is not "in the emotion" of society, I believe I am a better "Impartial Observer" than most.

You Said: In light of the above paragraph where you outline your inablility to discern emotion, how do you rectify your "burning in the bosom" - the emotion - that signals the answer for your "truth?"

You will find if you actually care to look that I have never claimed that my answer came from a Burning in the Bosom, but that that was a "Common method" as the apostles experienced on the road to Emmaus. I have always said that answers are as individual as the people who need to hear them.

Perhaps your undeveloped "emotions" got the better of you.

Your attempts to have fun at my expense are not appreciated.

Why should we trust your internal dialog, feeling, intuition, or gut reaction when it comes to truth?

You asked for an analysis, you got one you want an assessment of your emotional state, go somewhere else. I'm autistic, not stupid.

I will place my faith in the written, proven and true word of God, thank you very much.

Great, the Bible commands you to Try the Spirits to Ask God for Wisdom and to Seek and ye shall find.

You may do as you wish, God's commands not withstanding, I am merely inviting people to ask him, as he has commanded. If you truly believe they will receive a negative answer, you should be encouraging them along with me to put our church to God's test. and when they get an answer, and it testifies of Jesus Christ as My answer did, then they can apply the Bible again: First John 4:1-3
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
You claim the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, nicknamed Mormons abbreviated as LDS is a creation of the Devil through a false prophet, antichrist, etc. Tat's your claim.

Here is how people can know, and it's straight from the Bible. I encourage everyone to take John at his word, don't believe me, don't believe them, but try the Spirits, read the Book of Mormon Read the Bible, pray about Both, compare the spirit(s) of Both, ask God, and either he will tell you it's true, or he will tell you it's false.

Let's be clear about this, it's God's test, not mine.

When God answers, if he says you are wrong, then you are wrong, If he says I am wrong, then I am wrong.

If people get an answer and it testifies of Jesus Christ and his resurrection, they'll know I have been speaking the truth, either way, the answer comes from God, not me, for I am nothing but his messenger, and a poor servant at that.
287 posted on 11/27/2007 4:39:17 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Old Mountain man
I think John Wesley was out of his mind.

What leads you to think that? An Anglican Priest that felt more serious and practical about his faith shouldn't raise an eyebrow or cause a twitter.

288 posted on 11/27/2007 5:27:01 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: redrock
Before you impugn the Council of Nicea and the canon of the Bible again, do yourself a favor and watch the eight minutes of video at THIS LINK. You may want to watch several of the offered video segments, to learn more of the facts regarding the Bible, gnosticism, and heresy.
289 posted on 11/27/2007 5:32:24 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: redrock; restornu; tantiboh; DelphiUser; Grig; sevenbak
HERE'S A whole lot more in eight more minutes regarding the canon and the non-vote taken on the books for the canon.
290 posted on 11/27/2007 5:37:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Elsie; Colofornian; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; JRochelle; Greg F; Osage Orange; xzins
I should have pinged the posse to this site and videos. The information is very good scholarship.

http://www.garyhabermas.com/video/video.htm

291 posted on 11/27/2007 5:41:44 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: colorcountry

If you have never opened your eyes and seen it for yourself, felt it for yourself, you were never in the Church. You may have attended, but you were not really there.


292 posted on 11/27/2007 6:02:07 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: higgmeister

Also known as lazy catholics?


293 posted on 11/27/2007 6:07:35 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: MHGinTN

And the sad thing is that your faith is based entirely on some creed made up by Romans with their gold rings, gold necklaces and gold coins from their Emporer. Sounds like smoke and mirrors to me, maybe Constantine looking through his crown jewels to translate the gospels into empire friendly scripture.


294 posted on 11/27/2007 6:11:22 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man

The ravings of a fool may be amusing to read, but they do not warrant anything more than a chuckle. Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle.


295 posted on 11/27/2007 6:32:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: DelphiUser
If people get an answer and it testifies of Jesus Christ and his resurrection, they'll know I have been speaking the truth, either way, the answer comes from God, not me, for I am nothing but his messenger, and a poor servant at that.

If people get an answer and it testifies of Jesus Christ and his resurrection, they'll know I have been speaking the truth, .

Care to explain that? How does an answer testifying of Christ and His resurrection indicate YOU are speaking truth? BTW, when speaking of Christ, it is customary to capitalize "His".

296 posted on 11/28/2007 6:04:24 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don't hurt!)
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To: MHGinTN

LOL, gold is BAD in rings, necklaces and coins, but GOOD in phony plates!


297 posted on 11/28/2007 6:06:35 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don't hurt!)
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To: DelphiUser
You are a good salesman!

Sorry, you guessed wrong again.

I did NOT guess!

I said what you are!

ANYONE can see all the time and effort that you put into these threads, selling your brand of religion.

If you claim that I am guessing again, you'll get reported to the AM!

298 posted on 11/28/2007 6:35:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redrock
....and who was Polish and LOVED to tell Polish jokes.

There are MANY 'Polish' on these threads that would not see the humor.


...who had more character,honor and Christianity than the likes of you could ever have.

I'll take this under advisement.

299 posted on 11/28/2007 6:38:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
 
I encourage everyone to take John at his word, don't believe me, don't believe them, but try the Spirits, read the Book of Mormon Read the Bible, pray about Both, compare the spirit(s) of Both, ask God, and either he will tell you it's true, or he will tell you it's false.
 
Uh... you left out the IMPORTANT thing to read!!
 



 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 9
 
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet to Oliver Cowdery, at Harmony, Pennsylvania, April 1829. HC 1: 37–38. Oliver is admonished to be patient, and is urged to be content to write, for the time being, at the dictation of the translator, rather than to attempt to translate. 1–6, Other ancient records are yet to be translated; 7–14, The Book of Mormon is translated by study and by spiritual confirmation.
 
1 Behold, I say unto you, my son, that because you did not translate according to that which you desired of me, and did commence again to write for my servant, Joseph Smith, Jun., even so I would that ye should continue until you have finished this record, which I have entrusted unto him.
2 And then, behold, other records have I, that I will give unto you power that you may assist to translate.
3 Be patient, my son, for it is wisdom in me, and it is not expedient that you should translate at this present time.
4 Behold, the work which you are called to do is to write for my servant Joseph.
5 And, behold, it is because that you did not continue as you commenced, when you began to translate, that I have taken away this privilege from you.
6 Do not murmur, my son, for it is wisdom in me that I have dealt with you after this manner.
7 Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me.
8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must cask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.
9 But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong; therefore, you cannot write that which is sacred save it be given you from me.
10 Now, if you had known this you could have translated; nevertheless, it is not expedient that you should translate now.
11 Behold, it was expedient when you commenced; but you feared, and the time is past, and it is not expedient now;
12 For, do you not behold that I have given unto my servant Joseph sufficient strength, whereby it is made up? And neither of you have I condemned.
13 Do this thing which I have commanded you, and you shall prosper. Be faithful, and yield to no temptation.
14 Stand fast in the work wherewith I have called you, and a hair of your head shall not be lost, and you shall be lifted up at the last day. Amen.

300 posted on 11/28/2007 6:41:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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