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To: CharlesWayneCT
Your continued insistance that the injury was not life-threatening, or that the doctor didn’t say the injury was life-threatening, is incorrect.

Did he have renal failure? Was he denied a catheter, a simple medical procedure most often performed by nurses in the U.S.? Did he not have the catheter put in immediately following his injury, thereby eliminating any risk of renal failure?

Don't bother responding. If you won't see the difference after 100 posts, you never will.

228 posted on 11/26/2007 2:06:08 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

No, he did not have renal failure, because he received treatment. Being treated does not change that characterization of the initial injury. That is so obvious I can’t think of how to make it clearer to you.

Starving is a life-threatening action. If you eat, you won’t starve, but that doesn’t make starving non-life-threatening.

Having your urethra cut off from your bladder is life-threatening. That you can be TREATED for it does not make it non-life-threatening. The treatment mitigates the threat.

If I said his life WAS in danger after the catheter, your argument would have some merit, but I never said that. If I said he needed surgery to save his life, your argument would have merit, but I didn’t say that.

When my son was born, he had a staph infection and pnemonia. I didn’t want to go home for the night if his life was in danger, so I asked the doctor if it was “life-threatening”. The doctor replied that his situation was life-threatening. So I said “what are the chances he’ll be alive in the morning”, and then the doctor understood my question, and told me that so long as he stayed under treatment, he would in all probability be fine.

Under your argument, the doctor lied to me when he said it was a life-threatening illness. But he didn’t, he was using the term precisely correctly. My son had a condition that, without treatment, could kill him.

In fact, under your argument, if I say my son had a life-threatening condition, you would consider that a lie because his life wasn’t in danger since he was getting treatment.

That’s about the 5th analogy I’ve used to prove the fallacy of your argument. I hope it’s sinking in by now that I am on firm footing, and you are not.

As a person who tends to fix symptoms, not problems, I am an expert at the difference between the two. “fix” has a clear meaning. A catheter is not a fix. Repairing the tube so it works again is a fix.


233 posted on 11/26/2007 2:45:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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