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To: ModelBreaker
Um, I find it difficult to see where you get some of your wild assertions:

"... one searches in vain for any concept of the "soul" in the Old or New Testaments--that is, something separate from the body that somehow attaches and detaches from the body at birth and death but who is, nevertheless, us." And yet, here are a few Old Testament passages one may quickly cite, passages which speak of the spirit/soul/ and body and God's interaction with spirit and soul of the individual; and these are but a few from the OT, there are many more in the New Testament and in fact the entire foundational basis for the NT is God's interaction with the spirit/soul of man! ...

Numbers 27:18 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take thee Joshua the son of Nun, a man in whom is the spirit, and lay thine hand upon him;


Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.


Proverbs 20:27 The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.


Ecclesiastes 2:26 For God giveth to a man that is good in his sight wisdom, and knowledge, and joy: but to the sinner he giveth travail, to gather and to heap up, that he may give to him that is good before God. This also is vanity and vexation of spirit.

Ecclesiastes 8:8 There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.

Isaiah 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

Daniel 5:11 There is a man in thy kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar thy father, the king, I say, thy father, made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers;


58 posted on 11/23/2007 12:47:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the research. But I don't read any of those quotes to speak about a soul that is the real you and that attaches to the body when you are born and leaves at death--the Hellenistic notion of the soul. I read those as talking about the Holy Spirit or, in some cases, "spirit" in the modern sense of the word--as in, "her enthusiastic spirit." Of course, the Holy Spirit is not our soul. It is part of God. Unlike eastern religions, Christianity is quite clear that we are not God, we are creations of God.

If you are interested in a copiously detailed treatment of this subject, you might want to pick up NT Wright's "The Resurrection of the Son of God." It is also a great (but heavy) read on lots of aspects of first century Christian theology combined with the best single collection of apologetics responding to folks like Bultmann I have encountered.

82 posted on 11/23/2007 11:28:59 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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