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AT LAW: Second Amdnement Showdown
The Wall Street Journal ^
| November 23, 2007
| MIKE COX
Posted on 11/22/2007 9:41:05 PM PST by Aristotelian
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militias marched into battle with privately-owned weapons
The Framers knew that militias were comprised of citizen soldiers who supplied their own weapons. The amendment was not meant to imply collective ownership but rather individual ownership of weapons -- weapons they could bring to a fight at a moment's notice.
To: Aristotelian
The interns must be writing the headlines over the holidays....
;-)
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posted on
11/22/2007 9:44:14 PM PST
by
ButThreeLeftsDo
(Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" Since 11/20/06)
To: ButThreeLeftsDo
The interns must be writing the headlines over the holidays....And the editors asleep - or drunk.
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posted on
11/22/2007 9:48:12 PM PST
by
TomServo
To: ButThreeLeftsDo; TomServo
Recently, the WSJ edit page’s Dan Henninger had George Wallace being “shot dead.”
To: TomServo
The whole article is worth reading. It was written by the Michigan Attorney General, Mike Cox.
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posted on
11/22/2007 10:00:56 PM PST
by
Beagle8U
(FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
To: Aristotelian
The local rag (StarTribune) had a story today about a “pedestriam” being killed by the light-rail train yesterday.
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posted on
11/22/2007 10:01:20 PM PST
by
ButThreeLeftsDo
(Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" Since 11/20/06)
To: Aristotelian
This is a good article, though I would like to have seen a little more analysis of the grammar as it relates to the dependent clause and the subject of the sentence. A strict grammatical approach is all that is needed to clearly see that what the framers were talking about was first and foremost an individual right to keep and bear arms, with a dependent clause shedding some contextual light on the reason for that right. Any other reading is wholly anti-English (grammar, that is).
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posted on
11/22/2007 10:10:04 PM PST
by
samtheman
(Fred Thompson '08)
To: Aristotelian
Original wording of a fictitious Amendment:
A well-educated populace being necessary for the prosperity of a free State, the right of the People to keep and read books shall not be infringed.
...and, a liberal's interpretation of it:
Only well-educated people may keep and read books.
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posted on
11/22/2007 10:35:38 PM PST
by
Skibane
To: Aristotelian
This weekend I’m going to plunk a couple of old pumpkins with some 9mm hollow point, close range!!
Off topic a bit, but oh, well!!
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posted on
11/22/2007 10:48:52 PM PST
by
PROCON
I’m anxious as to what the court will decide. I feel we should be allowed to own and carry whatever our soldiers and Marines carry.
To: Aristotelian
If the SC were to decide that the 2nd allows the Army to bear arms, it would be the most stupid and ludicrous interpretation of a law in human history.
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posted on
11/23/2007 4:14:18 AM PST
by
sergeantdave
(The majority of Michigan voters are that stupid and the condition is incipient and growing.)
To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Normally I would assume the same, but the author of this piece is Mike Cox, the Michigan State Attorney General.
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posted on
11/23/2007 4:23:16 AM PST
by
P8riot
(I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
To: Sophie Schol
Im anxious as to what the court will decide. I feel we should be allowed to own and carry whatever our soldiers and Marines carry we want.There, fixed it.
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posted on
11/23/2007 4:25:16 AM PST
by
P8riot
(I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
To: P8riot; ButThreeLeftsDo
oops, I see what you mean now.
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posted on
11/23/2007 4:27:05 AM PST
by
P8riot
(I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
To: Aristotelian
I recommend everyone should read John Ross’s “Unintended Consequences” if you want to get a good summary of the erosion of our right to bear arms.
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posted on
11/23/2007 7:15:10 AM PST
by
kickstart
("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane')
To: Skibane
Original wording of a fictitious Amendment: A well-educated populace being necessary for the prosperity of a free State, the right of the People to keep and read books shall not be infringed. ...and, a liberal's interpretation of it: Only well-educated people may keep and read books.
Very good Skibane. - tom
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posted on
11/23/2007 7:22:05 AM PST
by
Capt. Tom
(Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
To: Sophie Schol
I feel we should be allowed to own and carry whatever our soldiers and Marines carry. I don't think I can afford a Mk-19. or an M-2 for that matter. I know I couldn't afford to feed the M-2. Might be able to manage a .50 BMG anti-material rifle though.. but of course I could buy one of those today, just as quickly as I could get myself to a gun shop that has one. Still I would like an M-16. (Heck I'd *like* an F-16, but that's way out of the question financially... Ross Perot's kid might be able to afford one though, and he's already trained and qualified to fly one. If he wants one, he should be able to buy a shiny new one off the GD line, or a refurbished one out of the bone yard.
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posted on
11/23/2007 7:46:26 AM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: Admin Moderator
Sir, could you please fix the misspelling in this article’s title? Thanks.
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posted on
11/23/2007 8:59:51 AM PST
by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Great article.
Thanks for the flag, pharmboy.
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posted on
11/23/2007 9:00:46 AM PST
by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
To: Aristotelian
And it says
THE RIGHT SHALL NOT BE ——
It doesn’t say the People shall be granted the right
In other words the RIGHT ALREADY EXISTS and it shall not be infringed
And if the geniuses on the Court some how think it is obsolete etc then it is not up to them to repeal it but the congress and the states through the Amendment process
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posted on
11/23/2007 10:36:58 AM PST
by
uncbob
(m first)
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