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To: 1rudeboy

“Such as, I have little patience for people who confuse their opinions with fact?”

Yes you are easily confused. You could have asked what I meant or somehow asked for clarification. Instead you chose to become insulting.

The cop mismanaged the situation and as such gave improper commands. The guy was not under arrest when he was tazed and had received no warnings. He had no cause to taze the guy. He also put the guys life at risk by tazing him in a dangerous area. He tazed the man because the man wasn’t dutifully subservient.

This cop needs to be fired and charged with assault before he shoots someone. Might be too late for that though, lotsa places to hide bodies out there. His obvious lies to the other officer show he cannot be trusted.

Or perhaps you think all citizens should lick the boots of the police state and be thankful when we aren’t shot on sight.


57 posted on 11/22/2007 12:48:02 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
The guy was not under arrest when he was tazed and had received no warnings. He had no cause to taze the guy. He also put the guys life at risk by tazing him in a dangerous area. He tazed the man because the man wasn’t dutifully subservient.

The officer ordered the man to put his arms behind his back and the man failed to comply. Failure to comply with a "lawful order" allows the officer to use the force necessary to compel compliance.

Perhaps Utah law holds that such an order implicitly includes a "warning".

62 posted on 11/22/2007 3:19:15 PM PST by secretagent
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To: 1rudeboy; All

I saw the FULL Video, before it was TRIMMED to fit YOUTUBE’s 10 minute limitation (which is not a real limitation, as they have videos that are and hour and a half long. It seems it depends on the SUBJECT MATTER, and whether they can generate more interest (HITS) by leaving it whole, or TRIMMING out certain PARTS. (just like the Clintons had the MSM do for them)

We are dealing some posters who BELIEVE that the laws should be different for a young WHITE GUY with a PREGNANT WIFE in UTAH, versus TWO BLACK GUYS in a CADILLAC in ARIZONA.

Who believe that the officer had no RIGHT to ensure the safety of his own life when confronted with suspicious actions of someone UNDER ARREST. Who believe that when a cop pulls them over, that they are not UNDER ARREST at that point. (I am sorry, but you are, and may be handcuffed, even if you never get a ticket, or are charged with anything).

PEOPLE seem to want to live in a fairy tale world, where they can WHINE and BEG their way out of tickets,
or leave the scene of a crime after running over CONSTRUCTION WORKERS BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING 68MPH in a 40MPH CONSTRUCTION ZONE (and then have daddy buy their way out), but , SHOULD a couple of vandals in a stolen car run a light, and hit one of these ‘people’, you can bet they would demand the cops CATCH these vandals, and if caught would be standing behind the cops yelling “HIT EM WITH THE TASER AGAIN”.

Not a one of them is truly interested in the facts of this case, as 99% have only seen the EDITED version, which has been EDITED to stir controversy.

Remember, the original came from the POLICE CAM, not some bystanders cam. WHO RELEASED THIS FOOTAGE to YOUTUBE (it wasn’t the police) AND WHY?

Maybe the kid’s LAWYER? Or his DAD (trying to get him out of the ticket)?

CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION?


83 posted on 11/22/2007 7:12:44 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: driftdiver

Jamming your hands in your pockets and walking toward the car after being told to put hands behind back is plenty reason to taze him.


91 posted on 11/22/2007 7:58:45 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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