[shibumi]

Sorry - I have a bad habit of making obscure metaphysical jokes while having tongue planted firmly in cheek.

The concept, rather than being an attempt to describe the ineffable in human terms, is simply that ALL physical “laws” that we make up to explain our perception of time and space are null and void when it comes to describing the “actions” of a transcendent God.

God, and by inference heaven (direct communion with God), cannot exist in time or space (as we know and describe them) but rather exist only in the Non-Locality of Now.

We are fractal, bearing characteristics of the Creator (made in His image) but at the same time being distinct and apart from Him. We are holographic projections of conscious thought, imperfectly perceiving ourselves as occupying four dimensions (or two to three “heavens” if you wish) but in fact being residents of hyperdimensional reality.

If that doesn’t make sense, then just remember that “Mea navicula pedens anguillarum plena est.”

[Salamander]

The power of postulate thinking:

Jim Morrison lives.

[ovrtaxt]

To me, I guess it's a way of saying the same thing in different terms. I mostly agree with what you're attempting to put into words (once we get on a subject like this, we can only attempt), so it seems to me that we're talking around the same reality to some extent.

I'm not sure what I think of the 'Non-Locality of Now' idea, unless you're tying in concepts like John 17:21-24, Col 1:16-19, Eph 1:3-4, 10, 20-23, 2:6. Which seem to indicate an existence on multiple levels of reality and multiple relationsips to God- all at once.

But I was simply stating a certain method of perception, using quantum physics and the speed of light to provide a starting point for our limited minds to grasp.

Then again, maybe we still don't agree..lol

هواناو من پر مارماهى است

(havā-nāv-eh man por-eh mār-māhi ast)

[49th]

If I told you you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?