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To: cowboyway
"You're leaving out the part where he refused to sign the ticket. An inconvenient fact, perhaps?"

No he didn't sign - probably because the officer was still hadn't answered any of his questions - he was apparently still under the mistaken impression that he was a full-fledged citizen. The officer did not tell him that his alternative was to be placed under arrest. An inconvenient fact back to you.

"At this point I'm thinking that perhaps you're not the brightest diode in the board. A democracy is not anarchy, friend, and actually, we don't live in a democracy. It's called a Federal Republic. And if we don't live in a rule based society, why do we have so many rules written down in books, such as the Code of Federal Regulations?"

Insults are unecessary but you seem to be more than ready to throw them around. Not classy.

Be that as it may, even a federal republic has choices on how it treats its citizens. We have the liberal democratic/mommy view that all of the citizens require careful protection from themselves and therefore government specifies everything in several layers of laws. Then we have the conservative and sometimes Republican view that this society is about freedom and that people should have as little government as possible. Since you seem to be a happy with the current state and contemptuous of people who question the need for so many laws/signs/fines, what are you doing on this site?

"What do you think the trooper should have done when the perp turned his back on him, after the trooper told him that he was under arrest, ignored the troopers command to halt, and began walking back to his car?"

I would have recommended yelling "Freeze - do not move or I will shoot!" in a loud, clear voice. Instead he gave a confusing "turn around" without telling which way he wanted him to turn and then tased him without warning. Then he related it to his fellow officer with amusement. Another inconvenient fact back to you.

Have just found out that they had two little children in that car. This cop was even more irresponsible than I first thought. You should be ashamed of blindly supporting this officer.

Last but not least, cowboys aren't my heroes. Cowboys are the heroes of little boys watching Gene Autry movies. My heroes fought the battles of an Nasaria, Baghdad, Ramadi and Falluja and secured al Anbar province. Real cowboys just tend cows.

549 posted on 11/23/2007 7:21:53 AM PST by USMCVet
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To: USMCVet
"Have just found out that they had two little children in that car."

Where did you find that out?!
551 posted on 11/23/2007 7:26:03 AM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: USMCVet
No he didn't sign -

He most certainly did. Trooper told him to sign the ticket twice and when he refused that's when he was told to step out of the car.

We have the liberal democratic/mommy view

You're previous posts indicate that this is your view because you think this trooper should have cuddled the driver, used 'people skills' and basically 'mommy' the driver. Hell, you probably think that he should have just let him go.

Since you seem to be a happy with the current state and contemptuous of people who question the need for so many laws/signs/fines, what are you doing on this site?

How did my statement 'we live in a rule based society' turn into the above? Me thinks you extrapolate to suit thine own self and could care less about the facts. And that includes the video.

I would have recommended yelling "Freeze - do not move or I will shoot!" in a loud, clear voice.

You mean saying "Turn around and put your hands behind your back" 5 times was not a clear message? You're full of excrement.

Have just found out that they had two little children in that car. This cop was even more irresponsible than I first thought.

How about the father of the kids? I thought you were a big shot conservative? Are you saying that the trooper is responsible for the drivers actions and that the driver is a 'victim'? (What the hell are YOU doing on this site!)

The driver should have shown more maturity, responsibility and role model skills himself.

Last but not least, cowboys aren't my heroes. Cowboys are the heroes of little boys watching Gene Autry movies.

Cute.

561 posted on 11/23/2007 7:52:17 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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