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To: driftdiver
"Firefighters and paramedics are the ones who save lives. Cops control traffic and play with guns."

that's all i need to see. dopey.

next time you or anyone you know is the victim of a crime, call a firefighter.

48 posted on 11/21/2007 8:29:12 AM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor
When did we accept as a society that officer safety was the first priority for law enforcement? I guess the "Serve and Protect" thing is false advertisement.

I was a combat infantryman and it was understood that the first priority was the successful accomplishment of the mission and that risks were necessary to do that. If the LEO's don't want to take the risks then they should choose another line of work.

53 posted on 11/21/2007 8:33:28 AM PST by Natural Law ("The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all other ties, any other hi)
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To: thefactor

“that’s all i need to see. dopey.”

glad to hear it Grumpy

“next time you or anyone you know is the victim of a crime, call a firefighter.”

and what will the cops do? Clean up and look for something to arrest me on? As I’ve posted here before the cops here aren’t interested in taking reports or chasing criminals. Takes 90 minutes to get a response for someone breaking into my house.

Then when I was trying to get my CCW it took them 5 tries to get my fingerprints. It only stopped at 5 because the state law put a limit on the number of attempts they could require. The 3 stooges could do a better job.


55 posted on 11/21/2007 8:34:40 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: thefactor

“When your life is on the line and every second counts, the police are only minutes away.”

Sorry, I’ll protect myself, thanks.


56 posted on 11/21/2007 8:35:17 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: thefactor
next time you or anyone you know is the victim of a crime, call a firefighter.

Huh? What's the cop gonna do, pat you on the shoulder and comfort you.

The firefighter's probably better at that anyway.

Oh wait, you probably mean the police officer's going to make a personal pledge to you to do whatever it takes to locate, apprehend, and prosecute the perp. Uh huh.

57 posted on 11/21/2007 8:35:48 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: thefactor
The police are useless with regard to protecting people from criminals due to the fact they cannot be everywhere at all times. It is up to the individual to protect himself. The police can only attempt to catch the lawbreaker. Someone who calls 911 rather than reaches for a gun or other means of defense when assaulted will be killed, injured, or robbed. By the time lawmen arrive, all they can do is prepare a report and interview the victim, if possible, and witnesses, if any.
60 posted on 11/21/2007 8:37:26 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: thefactor

“next time you or anyone you know is the victim of a crime, call a firefighter.”

He’s right. If I’m a victim of a crime and the cops show up all they’re going to do is fill out a report. If I’m injured and the cops show up all they do is call the paramedics, then fill out a report. If I bleed to death while waiting for the paramedics they fill out a different report, then laugh and joke about how stupid I was for being the victim of a crime and ending up DRT.


63 posted on 11/21/2007 8:38:38 AM PST by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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To: thefactor

I’d rather have a citizen’s posse come save me than a team of foul-mouthed, steroid pumped, arrogant, tax-eating, government employed, SWAT thugs. They’d be more effective because they would lack the “them” against “us” attitudes of the “blue-line”.

The few times I actually read about cops saving somebody—it’s almost always an off-duty officer who happens to be in the right place at the right time. Any citizen who carries firearms and practices, and who is present, could aid a fellow citizen who is being victimized. In fact, that’s the way it used to be before the government almost completely monopolized force against criminals and started telling citizens to back off and allow the “professionals” to take over.

Now we are conditioned to eschew carrying protection and to stand around like ninnies, confining our actions to dialing 911 for some cop who’s not going to arrive in time. It wasn’t that long ago that citizens (men) felt the responsibility to take an active role in ensuring that the weak were not victimized by criminals. Take the U.T. Austin tower sniper in the mid-sixties when the men of the town went home, got their deer rifles, and diverted the fire of the sniper so that a policeman (along with a civilian) could sneak up and take out the sniper. That probably couldn’t happen again.

thefactor, why don’t you recount ONE INSTANCE where you actually saved a citizen from being actively victimized by a criminal.


182 posted on 11/21/2007 5:02:43 PM PST by Sue Bob
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To: thefactor
next time you or anyone you know is the victim of a crime, call a firefighter.

The next time I or anyone I know is a victim of a crime, I'm not calling anybody.

No matter how bad the situation, it can always be made worse by adding a cop.

188 posted on 11/21/2007 9:17:10 PM PST by elkfersupper
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