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SWAT Unit Raids Wrong Home, Leaves Mess Behind
Cincinnati WLWT Channel 5 ^
| November 21, 2007
| Cincinnati WLWT Channel 5
Posted on 11/21/2007 7:28:37 AM PST by TSgt
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To: TMSuchman
The city will settle this for large amount of $ just to make it go away, as long as she make a large enough stink about it!
For the residents sake I certainly hope so.
To: MikeWUSAF
She lucky they didn't kill her. That happened in Kansas City, KS a few years ago. Wrong house, home-owner woke up, tried to defend his family and was murdered by the cops.
No charges against the cops of course.
To: MikeWUSAF
"Some of the ones out here had AR15's and shotguns."
ok, so why is it that if its a private citizen with a gun, its always an "AK47 assault rifle" implying that the citizen had an illegal, full auto rifle, but cops carry "AR15s" which is the semi auto version of the M16- the M16 being the gun they are probably actually carrying?
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posted on
11/21/2007 7:55:20 AM PST
by
absolootezer0
(Only two products have come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. Coincidence? I think not.)
To: TMSuchman
She could have invited the cops in & this would not have happened. Yes, the swat guys are scary looking, but look at who they are dealing with, and it is not the everyday citizen, who goes to work and pays their stolen wages to the govt. and goes to church and PTA & ect...
She could have, if she was home. It sounds like nobody was home when they conducted the raid. If she were home, I'm sure she'd be much more enraged about being gassed and tossed around by a SWAT team than she is about her guinea pig.
There was an instance in Austin a week or so ago where the local SWAT team surrounded a gun store for hours before making entry and finding out the thieves already left. I'm not saying that they were wrong, I'd certainly be extremely leery about charging into a gun store with doubtlessly armed criminals. I'm just pointing out that it's hard to invite someone in, or respond to police attempts to contact you when you're not technically in the building.
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posted on
11/21/2007 7:56:03 AM PST
by
faloi
To: MikeWUSAF
The police DO enjoy their weaponry power trip. It is like watching a sick little bully kid take joy of pulling the wings off of flys.
Policeman’s job is easy in a police state.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:04:01 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: Slapshot68
Easy for someone to say who doesnt put their life on the line bringing in the bad guysYeah, those gunea pigs can be nasty
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:06:57 AM PST
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: Roklok
Yep, and they will justify it at the drop of a hat. “Yessiree, that ole boy has an arsenal in his house. A .22LR and a whole brick of ammo.”
This kind of crap is really, really getting on the side of absurdity. What is insane is the coppers don’t really give a crap if they raid the wrong house or kill the wrong person. The only way I could see it slow down is if the cops could end up being charged crimminally, but that ain’t gonna happen. Talk about a classic case of the fox guarding the hen house.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:07:27 AM PST
by
biff
To: TMSuchman
I often side with LE but “no” the responsibility was not hers for not “inviting” them in.
To: super7man
“Something odd here”
I agree. That’s why I never get worked up over these types of stories. There are usually details that are convienently left out as to invoke outrage...and it seems to have succeeded.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:12:07 AM PST
by
heylady
To: faloi
There is a LARGE difference between a firearms dealer & a residence. I too would be extremely leery of going into that store, but a residence is very different.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:12:26 AM PST
by
TMSuchman
(American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
To: MikeWUSAF; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
"She said one of her pet guinea pigs was also killed during the incident."
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:12:45 AM PST
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: MikeWUSAF
When you give the big gun, little d*ck types even bigger guns, body armor, armored vehicles, and night vision goggles they just can’t help themselves. Heads need to roll up and down the chain of command from the mayor’s office to the dipshit who pulled the trigger.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:13:06 AM PST
by
Natural Law
("The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all other ties, any other hi)
To: ClearCase_guy
“When they kill the dog, they say “The deputy felt his life was in danger”. But now they’re killing guinea pigs!”
I take it you never saw Monty Pyton, oh wait that was a rabbit. Perhaps in their blood lust they failed to properly identify the type of rodent.
To: Slapshot68
Easy for someone to say who doesnt put their life on the line bringing in the bad guys.Attacking innocent people with a goon squad is dangerous?
Damn site safer than being a dog catcher, window washer or cab driver.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:14:49 AM PST
by
Eaker
(If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
To: Eaker
“Attacking innocent people with a goon squad is dangerous?”
You came into the conversation late and missed the point. I was responding to someone’s assertion that a SWAT team is even needed at all...not in relation to this case.
The police dept messed up here big time and needs to make amends. But there are circumstances when SWAT is needed given the danger of some criminals.
To: Slapshot68
"Easy for someone to say who doesnt put their life on the line bringing in the bad guys." Since we have an "all volunteer" police force these jack booted thugs made choices about the line of work and risks they were willing to take. I'm sure there were equally safe means of securing that apartment that didn't involve excess testosterone and paramilitary hardware. There also has to be remedies when these pin heads screw up. How about someone send them over with some cleaning equipment to clean the apartment and deduct the replacement costs for damaged items, along with a significant punitive settlement from their paychecks.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:19:29 AM PST
by
Natural Law
("The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all other ties, any other hi)
To: TMSuchman
She could have invited the cops in & this would not have happened.Uh, usually when such raids are conducted, it's not a "Knock, knock -- oh, pardon, we're looking for X, may we come in?" situation. Usually they bash down the door, toss in the smokers or flash-bangs, and charge in. Then they cuff everyone (at gunpoint) and ask questions much later.
You don't GET an opportunity to invite them in. Never mind the fact that letting any law enforcement officer in w/o a warrant is a bad idea, because more often than not, they'll FIND something to bust you for.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:19:31 AM PST
by
Malacoda
(A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
To: Joe Brower; Squantos
Welcome to the USSA.
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posted on
11/21/2007 8:21:46 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
To: Slapshot68
“Easy for someone to say who doesnt put their life on the line bringing in the bad guys.”
Sounds romantic and altruistic, sadly the reality is much different. When they recruit for swat teams they use the weapons and tactics to attract the kinda of folks who want to play with those items. Firefighters and paramedics are the ones who save lives. Cops control traffic and play with guns.
These guys are all about their ego’s and their military tactics. Anyone of us could go out and find a place to buy drugs within 2-3 hours and yet the cops can’t find them.
To: MikeWUSAF
ah yes. i'm sure this is an unbiased report. it's funny how we pick and choose what to believe from the media if it fits our beliefs.
i'm not saying it didn't happen, but there is always another side.
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