Gun Control - OSHA's covert role (Vanity)

self | 11/21/2007 | PapaBear3625

[ctdonath2]

On a tangent, OSHA should be pushing for silencers being required, not virtually prohibited.

[PapaBear3625]

Also, OSHA can stay in the background on this and avoid political heat on the Administration. By making guns a "safety violation", OSHA thereby ensures that insurance companies will do their work for them.

If there's a shooting, and there was no anti-gun policy in place, then the business is in violation of OSHA safety regulations. Being in violation would undercut their defense against any lawsuit, so of course any plaintiff's lawyer would ensure that a complaint was filed with OSHA. The insurance companies, to protect their position in such a scenario, would mandate a "no guns" policy as a condition of getting insurance

[Eagle Eye]

They are doing it because OSHA, a federal regulatory agency, is telling them they MUST have this as policy in order to be in compliance with Federal law (or else)

Sorry but you are just plain wrong.

The Looking further, I find this OSHA page on workplace violence with "guidance" on what employers need to do to reduce the risk of "workplace violence", with a link to "A Comprehensive Guide for Employers and Employees"

That portion is guidance only and does not have the force of law as you state.

And what do we find in this comprehensive guide? We find in the Appendix a convenient template for a Appendix E - Sample Workplace Weapons Policy for all businesses to implement, which reads:

Both those links are to a Minnesota state program, not an OSHA program as you stated.

IMO, OSHA isn't concerned about gun control but about effective public policy within their charter to reduce or eliminate workplace injuries.

You won't find many more staunch 2A supporters than I, since I even advocate felons being able to legally own guns.

But what we advocate as personal liberties don't always translate to good public policies.

If you own a factory with 1000 employees, how do you handle 2A rights vs your responsibilities and liabilities as the employer? Do you make policy that your employees resist robbers or that they comply with them?

Do you allow concealed carry on the factory floor or open carry? Do you have any guidelines, ie limits?

See, it is one thing for you to want your freedoms but something else when you have to have policy for 1000 people who may want to sue you!

So in the interest of truth and honesty, your post isn't truthful or honest.

[Eagle Eye]

Insurance companies do not need OSHA standards at all, they can write their own underwriting rules.

If there's a shooting, and there was no anti-gun policy in place, then the business is in violation of OSHA safety regulations.

Hey Dum Bass....according to section 5A any workplace injury is proof of violation

(a) Each employer --
(1) shall furnish to each of his employees employment and a place of employment which are free from recognized hazards that are causing or are likely to cause death or serious physical harm to his employees;

So your whole case is really falling down the tubes, isn't it?

[Eagle Eye]

OHSA only regulates workplace safety, not recreational or other safety.

And there’s not many workplaces where silencers would be a safety measure, are there?

[W. W. SMITH]

Citizens with no criminal record should be able, at will, to carry, concealed or open, any firearm they please, hand gun or long gun, anywhere they please without let or hindrance by government authorities.

[W. W. SMITH]

Citizens with no criminal record should be able, at will, to carry, concealed or open, any firearm they please, hand gun or long gun, anywhere they please without let or hindrance by government authorities.