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To: devere
We seemed to be in agreement, I thought you'd be interested in the background, which was essentially a disagreement between founders over whether we entangle (sorry paulies, the founders entangled us frequently) ourselves with France (Jefferson the entangler), the Brits (Adams the entangler), or Washington, who thought we should sit this one out. Needless to say at various times the founders not only entangled us with France and England, but went to war with both of them. So much for isolationism.

Hamilton, of course, simply wanted an American Empire, his vision of America as a world power the most on target, the paulies hate that too, brought about partially by Jefferson in Louisiana, but most forcefully by Polk, my candidate for underrated President, who took us from sea to shining sea by driving out the Mexicans from the west and Brits from the northwest, something I presume the paulies don't like either. Were we a non entangling, non empire building nation, we'd have a handful of states on the Atlantic coast. And Paul still couldn't get nominated, voters recognizing what America could have been.

It's a good address if you haven't read it all, though nothing like Lincoln of 144 years ago yesterday.

47 posted on 11/20/2007 3:35:17 PM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: SJackson

“We seemed to be in agreement”

I think in terms of the strategic direction for U.S. foreign policy, Ron Paul’s ideas have resonated with the American people, and are likely to influence future administrations. However, the abolutist nature of his isolationism is so impractical, that if implemented suddenly it would obviously be quite likely to lead to disaster.

Fred Thompson, who I hope will be the GOP nominee, is now saying things about being more careful in the future about committing American troops abroad. It would be disingenious to pretend that the public response to Ron Paul hasn’t influenced both him, and other candidates. So two cheers for Ron Paul. I regret that the impractical rigidity of his views diqualifies him, in my opinion, from being considered as a serious candidate for President.


53 posted on 11/20/2007 4:12:06 PM PST by devere
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