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1 posted on 11/20/2007 5:50:37 AM PST by Hydroshock
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2 posted on 11/20/2007 5:53:26 AM PST by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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U.S. home construction starts were up 3 percent in October, the biggest monthly gain in eight months, but building permits were down 6.6 percent

Does a builder not need a building permit to start construction? If so, how can starts be up if permits are down? Are some builders building without permits?

3 posted on 11/20/2007 6:00:01 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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Why is it Hydroshock always post doom and gloom stories?


4 posted on 11/20/2007 6:00:18 AM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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Emergency rate cuts are NEEDED TODAY!

These home builders need to get off their duffs and offer rebates, incentives, discounts for customers from Ford, Dodge, GMC, HomeDepot, Lowe's to get that inventory flying out the doors.

Instead of gramppapa's way of selling houses...sheesh!

6 posted on 11/20/2007 6:07:25 AM PST by BlabItGrabIt (Trucks...Trucks....Trucks...Trucks)
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Sounds odd. Starts up, permits down??

WTF?


10 posted on 11/20/2007 6:15:20 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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Fannie and Freddie today reported they are essentially insolvent. Check their stock prices out. OH SORRY FOLKS, I accidentally let some gloom drip out of the corner of my mouth, dammit. We all know there’s no mortgage problems, don’t we?


20 posted on 11/20/2007 7:02:49 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This post sold by weight, not volume. Content may have settled during shipment.)
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From another article:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071120/economy.html?.v=10

“all of the strength came in the volatile apartment sector, which jumped by 44.4 percent. Construction of single-family homes fell for a seventh straight month, declining by 7.3 percent in October compared to September.”

Somebody is betting all the folks that lose there homes are going to want to find a place to rent.

Probably a good bet.


33 posted on 11/20/2007 7:53:14 AM PST by RFEngineer
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In a related report/survey of the NAHB, only 1 out of 5 homebuilders are optimistic about the near term for homebuilding.

That means that 80% are probably looking to pull in their horns, especially the big mass builders of spec homes, and those who can will focus on custom homes for folks with committed loans.


48 posted on 11/20/2007 8:20:47 AM PST by wildbill
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Buy gold and hold. Sell the gold and buy 30 year Treasuries when rates hit 20%. Sit back and clip bond coupons for 30 years.

Those who followed that prescription in 1978-80 have been clipping their 20% bond coupons for the past 27 years.

Rinse and repeat. The next opportunity is close at hand.

62 posted on 11/20/2007 9:30:52 AM PST by jrsmc
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