Posted on 11/19/2007 9:58:44 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
PING
Looks like the dems are jumping in the water. (’bout time!)
This bill is going nowhere. The Republicans in the House and Senate need to add the provisions in the House bill of 2006. This bill is just a cover by freshmen rats in the House to bolster re-election chances.
Compare this bill with the reality in the rat controlled Congress. A joint conference committee recently stripped $3 billion for fence construction even though the fence was approved last year. The House rats have stopped an effort to ensure that the EEOC does not penalize employers like the Salvation Army for requiring English usage in the workplace.
Even if by a wild chance that this legislation moves forward, the rats will find a way to torpedo its implementation. If the rats gain complete control in 2009, an amnesty is certain. The only way to prevent an amnesty is a conservative President and more conservatives in the House.
If this (or any bill) intrinsically is a good bill, and it moves us forward to cracking down on this issue, I won’t care if it is demo or repub sponsored. the repub party had its chance. they, along with the democrats, if they know what is good for them, can get on board or be left out. if it is bipartisan and with teeth, the better.
My lithmus test on any immigration bill is to see where Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo come down on it. I trust their judgement.
Conversely, see who opposes it, too.
You’re right! I tend to judge the worthiness of some folks by the people who “hate” them.
And this is generally the press which is positive toward illegal immigration and always refers to illegals as "indocumentados" (undocumented) rather than "ilegales".
Judge it for what it is worth.
Hunter & Tancredo are two of the co-sponsors of this bill. The list of co-sponsors are at the link I posted in post# 5 (this thread).
Thanks for that link. There you go, the confirmation I was looking for.
Why am I skeptical about ANY bill that Pelosi will let see the light of day?
I don't have to look, my congressman is a member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. He is Mexico's member of the U.S. House.
He won't talk to me, unless I catch him in a situation where he'll look like a fool if he doesn't.
Database etc. all well and good but I don’t see anything in there about a FENCE.
“The Secure America through Verification and Enforcement Act, recently introduced by Rep. Heath Shuler, D-N.C., would require employers to verify that their workers are here legally through an electronic database”
The hospital I work at..for 42 years.. has just implemented a policy that every employee needs to have two forms of identification to verify “legal status”. Last month we ALL had to bring in two forms of identification either a passport, driver’s license, birth certificate or social security card.
Likely correct. It was decided in 2004 that if Congress tried to implement immigration reform piecemeal, they would never be able to reach agreement on all the issues, only the easy issues.
A good example of this is the Dream Act, which has wide and deep support in Congress. In the recent attempt to pass that act, ardent supporters were voting against it, because it was not comprehensive.
Having said that, Shuler's SAVE Act is very significant in that it has removed the REAL ID from internal enforcement/workplace enforcement. Even more significant is that there are immigration hardliners supporting the SAVE Act since these same hardliners were the ones that insisted Real ID be utilized for enforcement.
Very good lithmus test
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