Posted on 11/19/2007 4:21:25 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
Maybe, (when pigs have landing gear!) Kerry could explain the points raised by DBrow:
"Kerry allows Navy release of military, medical records
Here ya go, Kerry signed his 180 for full release (to Kranish) on May 20, 2005. Nobody but Kranish has it, and he read everything and found nothing new, just more praises and laurels for Jon. WE don't get to see it but the Boston Globe has it all locked away somewhere.
But, Jon Carry can honestly rebut your demand by stating that he DID "sign the 180" on May 20, 2005.
"The evil Swiftboaters are after me again..."
They WERE released in proper accordance with the SF 180- and he filed with the proper agency- but did not release to the public. He can do that.
The person holding the data is that Globe reporter, not Kerry! Kerry put onto his release forms that everything went to Kranish (and if you read the article, the only thing Kranish says is that there are many more commendations than Kerry had mentioned).
The Globe guy is the one who must release them to the public. He is under no obligation to either release, or keep them, he can shred them if he wants to or has wanted to since 2005.
Kerry was clever in doing this, he signed the 180, released his records, and now its not his fault nor responsibility if we cant pore over them in detail..."
No doubt Kerry found some point or points in the Swiftboat narrative he thought he could disprove and beat Pickens's broad challenge, "offer of $1 million to anyone who can disprove even a single charge of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth."
If Kerry could disprove anything he would have done it by now. Why hasn't he sued? All we can ever expect from John Kerry is a dishonest and shifty behavior like he did on Form 180 issue.
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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Well he most certainly has, hasn't he? And he looks like a moron for doing it.
Forgive my being uninformed, but what was the original offer?
“Now you can expect Kerry and his supporters to say Pickens has changed the conditions of the offer and declare victory.”
It appears that he has. I wasn’t there when Pickens made the challenge, but everything I’ve read said all Kerry needed to do was prove anything said was untrue.
Kerry is not that cleaver. Kerry also stated that everyone would see them. Kerry is still a liar until he releases them to the public.
Well he did change the conditions, and that doesn’t look good.
no he did not change anything......Pickens wants facts and proof...that’s all
No he hasn’t.....for Kerry to PROVE the Swift Boaters WRONG, the info from those three things need to be inspected.......whay is that so hard to understand.....it’s called PROOOF.
Did he really change the conditions or simply outline the terms of his original offer?
I heart T. Boone Pickens.
God bless the REAL Swift Boat Veterans!!!
I think Pickens is correct in asking for official records instead of something Kerry might come up with or have a “witness” say. I don’t think it changes the bet. It defines the level of proof.
Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens' [offered] $1 million to anyone who can disprove even a single charge of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
[snip]
Pickens issued his challenge Nov. 6 in Washington, while serving as chairman of a 40th anniversary gala for American Spectator magazine, according to two Internet accounts of the gathering and Kerry, who said he spoke to people who were there.
It's possible Pickens dropped in a bunch of disclaimers like a radio ad for used cars at the end of his speech but I doubt it.
I think he is going to succeed at looking like more of a boob than Kerry, if that's possible.
Trust but Verify
Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops
What's great about this is that Kerry walked right into it. If he tries to disprove anything, he'll look like an idiot.
On the other hand, Picken's asking Kerry to put up $1-mil on his bet just makes him look scared. That has nothing to do with proof.
Pickens needs to turn his guns on the real threat to America - Hitlery.
But now he wants to specify what proof means. He made the offer to ANYONE who could prove any of the allegations wrong. Now he makes a list of all the items he wants, but that was not the original challenge.
Official military records could establish facts and proof, more so than Kerry’s personal journals, which wouldn’t prove anything, as Kerry could be self-aggrandizing, or fantasizing in those anyway.
Looks like Pickens is trying to change the rules.
Sorry, But as I understand it, traitor Kerry never signed for the full release of his military documents. It is my opinion that he was given a less than discharge due to his treason in cooperation with the North Korean Communist leaders in France and in helping to kill hundreds of Americans and many thousands of South Vietnamese. But that discharge was changed when Jimmy "Idiot" Carter gave all the scum pardons.
But of course it is just my opinion. I agree with the Swift Boat people totally.
Good Grief.....he’s about to make the history books write the CORRECT FACTS, and you want him to go after Hillary......why don’t YOU do that....don’t leave it to someone else.
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