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Ron Paul is a Useful Man for Democrats
American Thinker ^ | 11-19-07 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 11/19/2007 10:49:55 AM PST by SJackson

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; SJackson
Perry was never Paul's "point man." He was someone, an individual, doing his own thing and decided to be a crook. More guilt-by-association BS that has no bearing on Paul's campaign.

The only paid staffer in the state until recently was another young activist, not this Jewish pagan Quaker or whatever he is.

Ron Paul's One-Man Band in the Granite State - washingtonpost.com

Another leading unpaid supporter in NH is a former state representative who is very influential in pro-life circles. She's been campaigning hard too. And we expect the Tancredo folk in NH to come over to the Paul campaign as soon as Tanc drops out.
41 posted on 11/19/2007 3:49:50 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush
This is getting somewhat hilarious. So to get this straight, the logic is Dr. Paul calls for cutting off funds for all nations (of which I must say I've seen the Israeli argument for doing the same thing). Therefore Ron Paul must hate Jewish people. OMG, I believe the same thing!! I must be anti-semitic. And I didn't even know....

He also happened to receive I believe $500 from some racist crackpot (again Dr. Paul's own words are the exact opposite of anything that idiot stands for) but yet for some reason the 'conservative' base isn't concerned where the money of Romney (how does my hair look?), St. Rudy (shall his name never be taken in vain), Fred (can I get a round of applause here?), or Hucklenut the Morality Crusader comes from. I'm quite sure those funds are coming from some rather interesting folks and quite a bit more than $500.

The only issue is that Dr. Paul rocks the boat and dares to bring up the fact this is not the nation the Framers gave us. And it upsets the sheep....

So what do we get? A flurry of half ass written 'news' reports about the 'evils' of Dr. Paul. Of course every one of Dr. Paul's positions can be traced back to the Constitution but he's still attacked because Heaven forbid Dr. Paul is calling for elimination of some rather sacred cows all the faithful have been brought up to believe is necessary. Which should tell us more about the state of this nation than where Dr. Paul stands.

42 posted on 11/19/2007 4:14:58 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears

Did you notice the article has absolutely nothing to do with its contents? These third-rate bloggers are getting kind of shrill, methinks.


43 posted on 11/19/2007 4:29:04 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush
These third-rate bloggers are getting kind of shrill, methinks.

Yeah but it drives their traffic up and makes them look important you know...at least in their own eyes. And frankly that's about all it is with these hacks

44 posted on 11/19/2007 4:38:18 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: SJackson
Ron Paul is a Useful Man for Democrats

Very useful, He is so anti-American he almost makes the democrats look patriotic.
45 posted on 11/19/2007 4:49:16 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: Hunterite
Can you imagine those poor Democrats. They have a choice between thunder thighs, $2,000 haircut man, and Osama Obama.

They also have the choice of the most anti-American running, cut and run Paul. With the democrats being so determined to loose the WOT I would think cut and run would be their first choice.
46 posted on 11/19/2007 4:55:56 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Have it ever occurred to you that Paul is bringing in new and young voters in the GOP, as well as reuniting the libertarians and independents together? Where are these voters going to go if Paul continues to get crapped on by the establishment and media elites?

If cut and run does not run 3rd party they will vote for the next most white flag waving anti-American. The democratic candidate. The people attracted to a white flag waving coward like cut and run never were Republican and would never vote Republican. They want America to lose the WOT. They want a cowardly hero, Ron Paul or Dennis Kuchinch
47 posted on 11/19/2007 5:11:13 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Your acting like Paul is a credible candidate will not make him credible or even sane. You can pretend all you want. Fact is, Paul is a political bottomfeeder with delusions of granduer. It is a shame that he is sapping energy that can be used to promote a viable candidate. He is being very selfish and pretending to be a contender. Huge ego trip for the odd little guy, I’m sure. But in reality Paul is a real bummer for the party and the country.


48 posted on 11/19/2007 5:54:16 PM PST by Martins kid
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To: billbears

“.... Paul rocks the boat and dares to bring up the fact this is not the nation the Framers gave us.”

Yep - We have the Internet and electricity now and flush potties too. Our population is very different from the population the framers knew. Girls can wear pants instead of skirts and work outside the home and even fly airplanes! Slavery has been abolished and blacks can vote. We have trains, and planes and automobiles! The world is a much scarier place than it was in 1776. Ron Paul wants us to go back...No thanks, Ron. I like flush potties and electric lights!


49 posted on 11/19/2007 6:02:24 PM PST by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid
We have the Internet and electricity now and flush potties too. Our population is very different from the population the framers knew. Girls can wear pants instead of skirts and work outside the home and even fly airplanes! Slavery has been abolished and blacks can vote. We have trains, and planes and automobiles! The world is a much scarier place than it was in 1776. Ron Paul wants us to go back...No thanks, Ron. I like flush potties and electric lights!

I see. So because we've had technological advances and social advances we need more government to protect us. From what? Ourselves? Foreign boogeymen?

Oh my 'conservatism' has gone straight to the dogs hasn't it?

50 posted on 11/19/2007 6:22:25 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears

Over that last 200 or so years laws have been passed as our population has grown and technology has advanced. Step by step these laws were debated and passed by elected legislatures and signed by elected presidents and approved by federal judges...FOR THE PEOPLE. I supposed you would undo more than 200 years of legislation? Reinstate slavery? Take away women’s right to vote? Or will you pick and choose? (Well aren’t you special...) You cannot undo more than 200 years of living and existing as a country. We are not perfect, but we are America and we are better than the rest of the world.(People a still moving here by the millions.) Still we are always trying to be better. Paul would undo 200 years of our history - that is why he is wrong.


51 posted on 11/19/2007 6:37:49 PM PST by Martins kid
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Step by step these laws were debated and passed by elected legislatures and signed by elected presidents and approved by federal judges...FOR THE PEOPLE. I supposed you would undo more than 200 years of legislation?

So because the 'New Deal' (repackaged socialism) was passed by 'elected legislatures' we should keep it? All those great government programs which have broken the back of our economy? How about the Progressive acts of the late 19th/early 20th? Making the market 'fair' instead of free?

As I've said today's 'conservatism' follows the view of the Framers in no fashion. Face it, you are advocating nothing but a 'living, breathing' Constitution. Taking up the banner of liberals.

Reinstate slavery? Take away women’s right to vote? Or will you pick and choose? (Well aren’t you special...)

How special, the red herring of slavery and women's suffrage. Because if I don't support the 98% of unconstitutional government surrounding me I must by default support putting people back into chains...although it would do to get rid of the 17th Amendment and put the power back in the hands of the separate and sovereign states.

Still we are always trying to be better.

So that's the moniker of today's progressive movement is it? Trying to do better? Just my opinion but you may want to work on a better catchphrase...

Paul would undo 200 years of our history

Again another misnomer. He would work to undo 200 years of unconstitutional government. The government is not history, the government is not the nation. The government is the government. And it's time to put it back in its place

52 posted on 11/19/2007 7:53:13 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Martins kid
Your acting like Paul is a credible candidate will not make him credible or even sane.

I honestly never believed he would win and still think he's a longshot although the odds have certainly been reduced dramatically. I'm just glad that he's running to unite the libertarians & social conservatives & independents weary of the war together to defeat Hillary. Bottom line in their present form, the Republican Party's base is shrinking. They are outgunned by the Democrats in support and fundraising and libertarians/independents will just vote their usual 3rd party.

You can pretend all you want. Fact is, Paul is a political bottomfeeder with delusions of granduer.

Yeah, and all those volunteers and grassroots supporters he has. He ordered his Paulbots to spam some radio wave into their brains, right? Look, the man has support, there's no need to remain in denial.

53 posted on 11/19/2007 8:58:25 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: George W. Bush
And we expect the Tancredo folk in NH to come over to the Paul campaign as soon as Tanc drops out.

I heard Tancredo and Paul are on good terms, no?

54 posted on 11/19/2007 8:59:23 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

But Pauls support is not all Republican. It includes Libertarians, a grocery list of extremists, and Democrats who are working to undermine Republican efforts (Not exactly supporters that a Repulican should be bragging about.) Volunteers and grassroots supporters..... Right. Paul does not belong in the Repulican primary and debates. He is a libertarian.


55 posted on 11/20/2007 5:26:40 AM PST by Martins kid
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To: SJackson

Hillary’s “...Her negatives are too high so her people know that they need a 3rd party to get her elected and they’ll do whatever it takes to splinter the GOP vote. Ron Paul is a perfect candidate to be the useful idiot.”

This point was just made on another thread and needs to be repeated. Ron Paul will guarantee a Hillary victory.


56 posted on 11/20/2007 6:05:26 AM PST by Martins kid
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Your post, number #37, doesn’t have any connection to the point I’d made about your guru.
57 posted on 11/20/2007 7:14:19 AM PST by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: Martins kid

Ron Paul is the Pat Buchanan/Ross Perot candidate of this election season. His supporters are equally indifferent to his effects and they’re indifferent as to how much he inspires America’s enemies.


58 posted on 11/20/2007 7:19:26 AM PST by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: elhombrelibre

And it does appear that Ron Paul inspires America’s enemies and the Democrats.


59 posted on 11/20/2007 8:25:01 AM PST by Martins kid
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To: SJackson; All

Ron Paul supporters are campaigning heavily against Fred Thompson by creating fake websites that bad-mouth and deride Fred. They create a site, then google-bomb it to push all positive articles and official Fred websites off into Google netherland so that they won’t be seen.

It’s one thing to run a positive campaign that supports your candidate, but it’s quite another when you spend all your time attempting to derail another candidate.

Ron Paul supporters and spammers have absolutely no class at all. They suk big time.


60 posted on 11/20/2007 8:43:49 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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