Posted on 11/17/2007 6:56:56 PM PST by camerakid400
Memo to: Ron Paul supporters
Subject: Your e-mails
Okay, enough is enough. Like every other journalist in America, and who knows, maybe the world or even the universe, I've been deluged with your letters and e-mails. So I've done as you asked and taken a closer look at your candidate. Here is what I've found:
1. Ron Paul is inconsistent. Though he calls himself a man of principle and is apparently admired as such by his ardent fans, his principles seem somewhat elastic. He rails against the Bush administration for its supposed assault on civil liberties, yet when he was asked at one of the debates whether Scooter Libby deserved a pardon, he said no. "He doesn't deserve one because he was instrumental in leading the Congress and the people to support a war that we didn't need to be in." Notice that he didn't say it was because Libby was guilty of committing a crime. No, because Libby argued for a policy with which Paul disagreed, he deserved to serve time in prison. Ron Paul, the libertarian, who presumably values liberty above all, is willing to deprive someone else of his because of a policy disagreement?
2. Ron Paul is historically challenged. He argues that by embracing isolationism, he fits within a Republican tradition stretching back to Eisenhower "who stopped the Korean War" and including Nixon "who stopped the war in Vietnam." Let's recap. Eisenhower threatened to use nuclear weapons against China. It was the Eisenhower administration that had a hand in toppling Iran's Mohammad Mossedegh (an intervention that Paul has elsewhere cited as causing the U.S. grief 25 years later when the Islamists took power). Eisenhower also intervened in Guatemala, Cuba (planning for the Bay of Pigs began during his tenure) and Lebanon.
Nixon, an isolationist? Most observers, whatever they may make of detente with the USSR and the opening to China, agree that Nixon was an emphatic internationalist. For the record, he intervened in many countries including Chili, Peru and Cambodia. And he saved Israel by resupplying her during the Yom Kippur war. Neither his successes nor failures grew out of a Paulesque policy of "minding our own business."
3. Ron Paul is unserious. Suggesting that you will eliminate the IRS, the CIA, the FBI and other government agencies within weeks of taking office is ridiculous. These are bumper stickers, not serious reform proposals.
4. Ron Paul is too cozy with kooks and conspiracy theorists. As syndicated radio host Michael Medved has pointed out, Ron Paul's newspaper column was carried by the American Free Press (a parent publication of the Hitler-praising Barnes Review). Paul may not have been aware of this. But though invited by Medved to disavow any connection, Paul has so far failed to respond.
Paul has appeared on the Alex Jones radio program not once, not twice, but three times. Jones is the sort who believes that black helicopters are coming to impose a police state on America. He is quite concerned about the Bohemian Grove, the Bilderbergers, the federal election system (it's rigged, of course) and so on. Naturally, he believes that 9/11 was an inside job. Ron Paul has even appeared in a Jones film, "Endgame," the point of which is apparently that the Bilderbergers are plotting to control the world. They've already got Europe (through the European Union) and now are on the verge of securing America by means of a North American union that would unite Mexico, the United States and Canada.
Even if Paul says nothing insane in this film, his appearance alone calls his judgment into question. I have not seen "Endgame," but I have heard a tape of Paul on the Jones program just after the 2006 election. Jones asked the congressman whether the victory for the Democrats wasn't a "rejection of neo-fascist imperialism." Paul replied, "Yeah . . . This was a healthy election as far as I'm concerned."
Ron Paul is the favorite candidate of a number of racist, neo-Nazi and conspiracist websites. While Paul cannot be held accountable for the views of cranks and kooks, he can disavow their support and return their checks. He received $500 from Don Black, the proprietor of Stormfront.org and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He has not yet returned it.
Moreover, Paul seems to be playing a sly game with his conspiracy-minded fans. He does not explicitly endorse the crazier theories out there, but he hints at dark forces in the U.S. government threatening our liberties, he inveighs against the "neo-cons" (shorthand for Jews in some circles) and he gives aid and comfort to the paranoid by appearing on their favorite radio shows.
No, Ron Paul is not my candidate. Not for president. He might make a dandy new leader for the Branch Davidians.
The same reason Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 did so well at the box office. There's a small, but very dedicated hate America crowd there willing to part with their money to promote their "cause."
"So" Popular? You are jesting, right?
why he has so much support.
He has a chance to do well in open primary states, though, where the liberal Independents may decide to cast some votes over on the GOP side. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets as high as 20% in New Hampshire.
That's a bunch of drivel. So you're saying that the $8.5 million came from those who hate America. Every single one of Dr. Paul's supporters are wingnut conspiracy kooks, right?
Here's a bunch of those loony, anti-war, 9/11 was an inside job nutcases cheering on Dr. Paul before the Ohio State and Michigan college football game today. Just ordinary college students cheering on Dr. Paul in full view of the ESPN anchors. I know it pisses you off that they're not cheerleading for one of the MSM-approved assembly-line Republican candidates.
You mean “ordinary Americans” like David Duke, who refers to Ron Paul as “our king”? take a look at Duke’s website and you can follow the links contained under the heading, “Support Ron Paul’s Nov. 11th Fund-Raiser”. Just another “ordinary American”.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/ron-paul-one-388512.html
How about those “ordinary Americans”?
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-11-11&e=407&c=1
KKK ordinary Americans?
“One of Ron Paul’s top internet organizers in Tennessee is a neo-Nazi leader named Will Williams (aka ‘White Will’). Williams was the southern coordinator for William Pierce’s National Alliance Party, the largest neo-Nazi party in the U.S.” Reported by Adam Holland on his Blog and re-reported in The American thinker.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-12-1&e=408&c=1
Another announcement of a KKK meeting... “ordinary Americans”? And along with that announcement you can follow the link to the Ron Paul website.
“On the white-supremacist Vanguard News Network, Williams links to Paul’s “grassroots” fundraising site and organizes other racists to “game You Tube” to advance a specific Ron Paul video to the top of You Tube’s rankings. Writes Williams, “Everybody here can do this, except bjb w/his niggerberry.” Holland points out, “BJB” stands for “burn Jew burn”. BJB’s internet signature is, “Nothing says lovin’ like a Jew in the oven.”
These are some of the “ordinary Americans” supporting Ron Paul. Why? And why is his campaign issuing what can only be described as embarrassingly lame resonses to the support of avoid racists such as these “ordinary Americans”?
On You Tube, you may view a video in which Ron Paul is endorsed by Hutton Gibson, a leading Holocaust denier and father of controversial actor and director Mel Gibson.
And of course Paul is supported by another “ordinary American”, none other than Patrick J Buchanan...
These are serious questions that don’t seem to elicit a serious response either from you, or from Paul’s campaign.
If the GOP casts aside entire voting blocks (small government folk concerned with constitutional rights), it deserves the consequences.
So how many percentage points were the last couple presidential elections decided by???
“What scares me is the chance that the irrelevant Ron Paul will be the Ross Perot of 2008.”
No, that role will be played by Michael Bloomberg. Ron Paul has stated that he will not run again as a third-party candidate.
I think Mona Charen may be a Clinton supporter. Who gains from anger and disunity in the Republican ranks?
He is popular - it sounds like you need to turn off the boob tube and stop believing everything you're spoon fed by the MSM, and maybe spend time on sites other than FR. Ron Paul DOES have a lot of growing support.
All that DESPITE being virtually ignored by the mainstream media, who has already selected Their Approved Candidate.
Actually, it scares the hell out of them. They are brainwashed by the neocon agenda. Just ask em. They actually think that the war on terror is a conservative issue, while speaking up for our 1st, 2nd, 4th amendment rights is liberal and unAmerican.
You know what scares them even worse? That this will someday be an official coin:
Wow, that’s a lot of anti-American kooks!
Enjoy your delusions.
She might be, but Ron Paul is still a kook
Again, being endorsed by white supremacists doesn't mean that Paul is a racist himself. They don't speak for him - Paul has his own agenda and he's not going to play the game of getting cornerned by kooks and apologizing for things he doesn't believe in. His opponents are pushing the racist angle because they can't attack Paul on the other issues. He has denounced racism here on his official campaign website, and has made numerous statements prior. BTW, blacks are flocking to Paul, more so than the other GOP candidates.
Paul has many conservative positions, but he is a libertarian. We need a strong conservative candidate.
Define "strong" conservative. I want a conservative-libertarian like Paul who'll limit government economically as well as socially, and stay out of my life. Let me and my state deal with social issues. You can keep your nanny-staters & Republicans kissing up to socon bigwigs all the time. It's the perfect balance, one that the GOP desperately needs. The GOP needs to court libertarians on a few issues instead of watching them vote 3rd party and then complaining about it when their RINOs lose close elections. With Paul, there will be no Libertarian or Constitution 3rd party candidate to siphon away votes.
In Iraq there have been many recent successes. Troops should be able to gradually reduce while handing control over to the Iraqi military over the next few years. Immediate withdrawal is not in the interest of American national security.
If things are going good in Iraq, then there should be an unannounced timeline where we can leave. Sorry, but I don't want our troops staying in Iraq for generations and building permanent bases and crap, we can't afford it. Poland is withdrawing its troops next year.
Paul has stated he would negotiate with the Ayatollahs in Iran.
Please provide the link for this statement. Paul said he would trade and conduct diplomacy with all nations, but I don't think that means he'll be the Iranian president's best friend.
This year, for the first time ever, I got involved. As they say - Dr. Paul cured my apathy. I havn’t done much but gather a few signatures to enable his name to appear on the ballot, but it’s a start. What I found in gathering the signatures is that most people are stupid, uninformed or don’t care about politics. The folks I know who are supporting Ron Paul this time around are normal people; an electrician, a small business owner, a Grandma, an elementary school principal, a pharmacy technician, a school maintenance man, and a police officer. Can you handle the truth?
Like I said, if you want to believe that every single person supporting Paul is a Neo-Nazi or Code Pinker, that's your business. The YouTube clips and the thousands of grassroots supporters who volunteer for the campaign and attend Dr. Paul's rallies refute your stereotype.
Mona Charen is as usual spot on with her analysis and in her conservative response to the liberals spamming her e-mail inbox.
More like Charen pulled a "No Mas" because she was getting hammered with the truth. Anyway, Charen's opinions doesn't matter, she's a beltway token conservative.
Great Video. Love the energy level - the other candidates should weep when they see this. Makes me pine for those college years.
Your post doesn’t mean anything. Paul doesn’t solicit their endorsements or their money.
Yep, Paul’s a kook. That kook is running rings around the other candidates. He’ll probably end the 4Q with $25 million. Not bad for someone who’s at “2%” in the polls.
If I may, what attracted you to Paul?
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